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    I agree that the rule is nonsense. However, I...

    I agree that the rule is nonsense. However, I disagree with this statement:



    The rule states "in the category in which they have applied to participate." That's a very precise definition (i.e....
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    Steigs, Bylaw 402 from the IIHF statutes and...

    Steigs,

    Bylaw 402 from the IIHF statutes and bylaws states (edited to remove the irrelevant points):



    So, strictly speaking, any country that does not have a true u20 league (and Canada does...
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    IIHF u20 League Requirement

    One of the rules for taking part in the u20 Worlds is that a nation must have an u20 league with at least four teams in it playing at least 15 games each. While that rule has been ignored for some...
  4. And I don't think that it is a coincidence that...

    And I don't think that it is a coincidence that the player who was easily player of the tournament for Great Britain (Ben O'Connor) has spent more of his senior career outside of his own country than...
  5. I would only agree with that if the Lithuania...

    I would only agree with that if the Lithuania game was not typical of Great Britain, not just in this tournament, but in past tournaments, too.

    South Korean scoring efficiency was 15%, British...
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    To be fair... It's clearly a stop-gap for...

    To be fair...



    It's clearly a stop-gap for the guy to allow him to play while he looks for a new team. It's not as if his exit from Kazakhstan was his choice or something that he will have seen...
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    Week 7 NIHL2S review. Slough Jets Live...

    Week 7 NIHL2S review.

    Slough Jets Live maintained their 100% record with their fifth win of the season, this time 4-1 at home against Chelmsford Warriors Ice Hockey Team. Warriors actually...
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    Week 6 roundup... There is now only one team...

    Week 6 roundup...

    There is now only one team left undefeated in NIHL2S. Given how few games have actually been played so far, that bodes well for the competitiveness of the league this year. But,...
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    Week 5 NIHL2S review... On Saturday, the...

    Week 5 NIHL2S review...

    On Saturday, the Peterborough Islanders were stunned to find themselves 2-0 to the Chelmsford Warriors Ice Hockey Team with less than five minutes played in their first...
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    Week 5 of the 2014-15 NIHL2 season sees only...

    Week 5 of the 2014-15 NIHL2 season sees only three games.

    Peterborough Islanders host the Chelmsford Warriors Ice Hockey Team in Saturday's only game. Islanders will be disappointed to have come...
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    And probably the most famous example, Evgeni...

    And probably the most famous example, Evgeni Nabokov. Played for Kazakhstan in 1994. Played for Russia in 2006.

    Graham.
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    Week 4 League Review Game of the weekend was...

    Week 4 League Review

    Game of the weekend was undoubtedly the 6-6 draw in Haringey Racers' home league game against Peterborough Islanders. Racers were desperate to get their first win of the...
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    I think this is PR by the league to justify...

    I think this is PR by the league to justify reducing the ban so drastically. But, their statement when they announced the ban was (emphasis added by me):



    I personally don't see how this can in...
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    Week 4 and while the Bristol Pitbulls are not...

    Week 4 and while the Bristol Pitbulls are not playing this weekend, there is no shortage of action elsewhere, particularly in the league.

    On Saturday, Invicta Mustangs start their season but a...
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    Week 3 of the 2014-15 NIHL2S season gave us our...

    Week 3 of the 2014-15 NIHL2S season gave us our first insight this season to four teams.

    Wightlink Tigers trip to play in the new Slough Jets Live first home game was ever bit as difficult as it...
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    Careful, that is not what this punishment is...

    Careful, that is not what this punishment is about. The EIHL accept that cameras don't see everything. But, the rules state that a video must be supplied that covers the whole game. In this case,...
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    This is proving to be a very controversial game....

    This is proving to be a very controversial game.

    Edinburgh's Emmerson was given a boarding penalty in the first minute of the game. Although he was only given a two-minute minor on the play, the...
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    To be fair to Hull, they were already short...

    To be fair to Hull, they were already short benched as some of their imports hadn't arrived by the time of the game, and one had only arrived in the country that morning. Turcotte was thrown out half...
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    Coventry haven't said anything, so everything is...

    Coventry haven't said anything, so everything is speculation. But, the most common opinion is that they have priced themselves out of the market. Particularly given the strength of the pound against...
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    It was the first game of the season at the Ally...

    It was the first game of the season at the Ally Pally with a real clash of the titans from the Eastern Conference as Slough Jets Live downed their hosts, the Haringey Racers, 7-2.

    Racers' home...
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    The 2014-15 NIHL2S season has officially begun! ...

    The 2014-15 NIHL2S season has officially begun!

    And it has begun with a barnstormer of a cup game in Basingstoke as the Basingstoke Buffalo downed Haringey Racers 5-4.

    Buffalo took a two-goal...
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    2014-15 NIHL South Division 2

    This season, NIHL2S has gone for a regionalised conference format. The league is split into a western and eastern conference, with the top two from each conference playing a home-and-away playoff...
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    In that case, I'd have to challenge you and name...

    In that case, I'd have to challenge you and name the four players you believe that are better than him at this moment in time. You've asked the same of us...

    And yes, he has played in higher...
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    Birbraer hasn't had a good season since 2010-11....

    Birbraer hasn't had a good season since 2010-11. The reasons why the following three seasons haven't been good years for him are irrelevant. If you have three bad seasons in a row, only that cold...
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    The season before, Cardiff only finished 5th in...

    The season before, Cardiff only finished 5th in the league and were bottom of their conference.

    Even the year before, they'd gone from a team who only lost the league on regulation wins to a team...
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    Every single one of those teams finished above...

    Every single one of those teams finished above Cardiff and made the playoffs last year. Why would they want to bring in a 33-year old player from a weaker team, one where questions have been publicly...
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    In seven EIHL seasons, he has scored 163 goals...

    In seven EIHL seasons, he has scored 163 goals and posted 245 assists for 408 points in 363 games. He has also played in 19 playoff games, scoring 22 points. On top of that, he can play multiple...
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    Nothing against him, but I'm not overly surprised...

    Nothing against him, but I'm not overly surprised that he wasn't offered a contract. Cardiff are an ambitious team and not making the playoffs last season was unacceptable to them. A wholesale change...
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    I don't think you can say that, either. You can...

    I don't think you can say that, either. You can only say that the conference system couldn't exist in it's current format. Since playoff qualification is based on league positions and not conference...
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    The EPL will have nine teams in 2014-15. NIHL1S...

    The EPL will have nine teams in 2014-15. NIHL1S had nine last year and while they will have ten this year, NIHL2S will go down to eleven.

    I don't understand the obsession that many in British...
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    As I said earlier in this thread, a London...

    As I said earlier in this thread, a London franchise has already been awarded and the league have already gone on record as saying that they expect the team to be in place in time for the 2014-15...
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    Not so sure. I think if Streatham moved to the...

    Not so sure. I think if Streatham moved to the EPL, there would be more in that argument. But, Haringey and Wembley are not that far apart (about 10 miles). I think they would both be fighting for...
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    No need to apologise. There's quite a lot of...

    No need to apologise. There's quite a lot of deviating in this thread just now!



    The ice plant is being put into Wembley Arena this winter and is expected to be ready in time for the 2015-16...
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    Never rely on team staff when asking about a...

    Never rely on team staff when asking about a rink. Teams are only tenants. They always assume that they know everything about the building's plans, but ultimately why would the landlord want to keep...
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    I'd turn that question around. Why would there be...

    I'd turn that question around. Why would there be a very neat white line underneath where boards that were boards went into the concrete? If those boards have been moved, there is no sign where the...
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    Nothing to do with the boards. Under previous...

    Nothing to do with the boards. Under previous rules, the blue line was 21.33 metres from the end board. They are now 22.86 to make the blue zone larger in the hope that it encourages more offence....
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    Our source was a director at Planet Ice, operator...

    Our source was a director at Planet Ice, operator of both the Cardiff and Gosport rinks.

    That said, it was about 18 months ago and there is now a plan to refurbish Gosport which would make me...
  38. I wouldn't be too worried about the games in...

    I wouldn't be too worried about the games in Cologne. Only the local derbies have good crowd attendance. I watched Wolfsburg play there and the crowd was only just over 4000. None of the games you...
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    Not that I'm aware of. But, we got told this when...

    Not that I'm aware of. But, we got told this when we were asking about bringing Cardiff's rink to Bristol. Planet Ice own both the BBT and Gosport's current rink.

    That said, I'm far from convinced...
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    It's going to Gosport. Deal was done a couple of...

    It's going to Gosport. Deal was done a couple of years ago.

    Graham.
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    GB u20 League Proposed

    Ice Hockey UK have proposing that an u20 league be set-up.

    http://www.icehockeyuk.co.uk/under-20-league-proposal--p192499

    Two important points to note here:

    1. This is being proposed by...
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    Technically, the British Champions are the...

    Technically, the British Champions are the winners of the playoffs and not the league. The winner of the top flight league are referred to as the British league champions.

    20/20 knock-out and...
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    The IIHF made it clear in the Stewart ruling that...

    The IIHF made it clear in the Stewart ruling that this was only because he wasn't eligible to represent any county and meeting the criteria would clearly be detrimental to his career (i.e. he was...
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    Three points: First, Hári's case is completely...

    Three points:

    First, Hári's case is completely different to Stewart's. The primary issue with Stewart is only that the was not eligible to play for any country. It was regarded as being...
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    But is it what we consider hockey? There are...

    But is it what we consider hockey? There are reports of a stick and ball game being played in the UK in the 1700s, but they are believed to have evolved into what we would now regard as bandy.

    I...
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    Sorry, I rushed my post and wasn't very clear. ...

    Sorry, I rushed my post and wasn't very clear.

    The only question is around the 12-year old rule which was only made explicit in September 2012, about five months after his eligibility was denied....
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    I honestly don't see how CAS can change this in...

    I honestly don't see how CAS can change this in Harí's favour.

    There is no generic, sport-wide set of rules that define the eligibility rules for international sport. As a result, I don't think...
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    Apologies to Veghist, I'd completely missed that...

    Apologies to Veghist, I'd completely missed that post. It's also corrected a misunderstanding on my part. I wasn't aware that the IIHF Council had a vote, although a quick look at the Statute does...
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    Notification of Downtime

    All,

    Please note that the forum will be down for a few hours on Friday 30th May to do some upgrades. These have been pending for several weeks, but I didn't want to bring the forum down during the...
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    How can they? They must have voted for this....

    How can they? They must have voted for this. Division 1A hosts are only voted for by the participating nations. Therefore, at least three countries must have decided that they wanted to go to Donetsk...
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