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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    Incredible but true, Slovakia outshot Russia 45-36 and lost 8-2. Russian team will probably get better in the upcoming games and if they'll have such a goaltending from Vasilevski and Shegalo as they had today then they must be considered as contender for medal. Start definitely shows that they won't be in relegation round as most of the fans predicted.
    who were these fans? dont think some one took theyr prediction seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger by Night View Post
    On this year's U18 Championship, our national team outshot the Russians too, but we lost 3:8.

    http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/236/IHM236B19_74_3_0.pdf

    I haven't seen today's Slovakia vs. Russia game, but according the stats, it seams Slovak U18 team had the same troubles as our U20 team - disorganized defence and individual fatal mistakes.
    again, what means outshot?? moving in to opposite D zone and shoot,shoot,shoot...its a hockey game not shooting contest!

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    Of course outshooting someone doesn't mean playing better, but still, there is a significant positive correlation between the SOG ratio and the overall image of the game. If some team outshoots the opponent, and still loses 2:8, then either the losing team is so desperate, so they shoot from the middle zone, or they make so big mistakes, so one of two opponent's shot is a scoring chance.

    In other words, if a team wins 8:2 and outshoots the opponent 45:12, it's obvious who was better in all aspects, but if a team wins 8:2 and still gets outshot, it means the reason why they won was more complicated than "that they were simply better".

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    Group A; Day 2-Game 3

    Slovakia - United States 1:8 (0:2, 0:4, 1:2)
    0:1 - 11.22 Rocco Grimaldi (Miller, Jones) PP1
    0:2 - 19.31 Connor Murphy (Boyd, Samuelsson) PP2
    0:3 - 21.00 Robbie Russo (Jones) PP1
    0:4 - 30.42 Travis Boyd (Larraza) SH1
    0:5 - 35.37 Reid Boucher (Miller, Grimaldi) PP1
    0:6 - 39.01 Adam Reid (Biggs, Russo) PP1
    0:7 - 44.38 Dan Carlson (Pietila)
    0:8 - 47.08 Ryan Haggerty (Paliotta) PP2
    1:8 - 50.32 Marko Dano (Vasko, Mraz)
    PIM: 12x2 - 9x2+1x10 SOG: 25-46 Att: 800
    Refs: Grumsen Jacob (Den), Solem Per Gustav (Nor) Linesmen: Pesek Tomas (Cze), Suominen Sakari (Fin)
    Goalkeepers: Richard Sabol 20/25 (Patrik Rybar 18/21) - John Gibson 20/20 (Matt McNeely 4/5)
    SVK: Sabol Richard (24.23 Rybar Patrik); Korim Karol, Bezuska Peter, Mikus Tomas +A, Hudec Denis +A, Rapac Branislav, Bagin Emil, Gernat Martin, Vasko Filip, Mraz Bruno, Boltun Peter, Nechala Tomas, Ceresnak Peter +C, Mraz Richard, Bezuch Juraj, Dano Marko, Luza Patrik, Bires Andrej, Hindos Matej, Dolnik Vladimir
    USA: Gibson John (11.36 McNeely Matt); Kaib Barrett, Reid Adam, Larraza Zach, Haggerty Ryan, Carlson Dan, Trouba Jacob, Jones Seth, Kerdiles Nick, Biggs Tyler +A, Boyd Travis, Paliotta Michael, McCabe Jake, Miller JT, Boucher Reid, Grimaldi Rocco, Murphy Connor, Russo Robbie +C, Pietila Blake, Samuelsson Henrik, Bardreau Cole +A

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    Group B; Day 2-Game 3

    Norway - Sweden 2:10 (1:1, 0:3, 1:6)
    1:0 - 18.53 Jonas Knutsen (Trettenes) PP1
    1:1 - 19.01 Filip Forsberg (Karlsson)
    1:2 - 23.23 Mika Zibanejad (Klefbom)
    1:3 - 34.39 Mika Zibanejad(2) (Boyce-Rotevall, Rask)
    1:4 - 37.12 Jeremy Boyce-Rotevall (Zibanejad, Bengtsson)
    1:5 - 40.15 Victor Rask (Klefbom) SH1
    1:6 - 44.53 Gustav Bjorklund (Blomkvist) SH1
    2:6 - 45.22 Jonas Knutsen(2) (Salo)
    2:7 - 47.13 Filip Forsberg(2) (Bengtsson, Johansson) PP1
    2:8 - 49.02 Mika Zibanejad(3) (Boyce-Rotevall, Klefbom)
    2:9 - 53.25 Victor Rask(2) (Zibanejad) PP1
    2:10 - 56.41 Jeremy Boyce-Rotevall(2) (Rask, Zibanejad)
    PIM: 7x2 - 5x2 SOG: 14-77 Att: 533
    Refs: Brueggemann Lars (Ger), Vasilyev Alexei (Rus) Linesmen: Birin Viktor (Rus), Kowert Andreas (Ger)
    Goalkeepers: Steffen Soberg 45/49 (Espen Johansen 22/28) - Niklas Lundstrom 12/14
    NOR: Soberg Steffen (20.00 Johansen Espen); Nasgaard John Nicolay, Lesund Erlend, Hoff Magnus +C, Karterud Jorgen, Weberg Sebastian, Salo Espen +A, Noteng Markus, Soberg Markus, Knutsen Jonas +A, Trettenes Mathias, Bjorsland Martin, Haaland Iver, Medby Endre, Heier Andreas, Aslaksen Adrian, Lund Martin, Fischer Magnus, Salsten Eirik
    SWE: Lundstrom Niklas; Vikstrand Mikael, Klefbom Oscar +C, Boyce Rotevall Jeremy, Rask Victor, Zibanejad Mika +A, Bengtsson Rasmus, Johansson Karl +A, Arvidsson Viktor, Nermark Joachim, Lundberg Emil, Blomkvist Albin, Nilsson Tom, Bjorklund Gustav, Karlsson William, Forsberg Filip, Blomstrand Ludwig, Lilliestrom Karlsson David, Wedin Anton, Froberg Linus
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    Wow Mika Zibanejad with a nice start to his push to be a top 10 pick in the upcoming draft...6 points is impressive against anyone.

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    Is there anywhere online to watch the canada-czech republic game?

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    This tournament has been a pretty bad news for Slovakia so far.

    And we should be glad we managed to luckily beat Sweden, so we still have a chance to make it to the QF, if we beat Norway and if we either harvest some points from the match against Finland or if both Canada and Finland manage to beat Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neugs View Post
    Is there anywhere online to watch the canada-czech republic game?
    tried but could not find a live feed. Game over now anyway, Canada 5, Czechs 0. A little surprised at the 5-goal spread. I expected a closer game against the CR. Malcom Subban, the goalie and brother of PK, got the shutout. They have a youngest brother, Jordan Subban, who played minor midget AAA in Toronto this past year for the Toronto Marlboros. He is eligable for the OHL draft this summer, and is a likely 1st round selection. This family might have 3 sons in the NHL soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger by Night View Post
    This tournament has been a pretty bad news for Slovakia so far.

    And we should be glad we managed to luckily beat Sweden, so we still have a chance to make it to the QF, if we beat Norway and if we either harvest some points from the match against Finland or if both Canada and Finland manage to beat Sweden.
    This tournament has been bad news for Slovakia for years already......
    kind of thinking that our game plan is not to bother with the big guys, save the energy and let the Swiss and Germans loose as much as possible of theirs against them befor we play them....knowing the strength of the respective younger Slovak classes when it should come to relegation I´d be "happier" if it happened this year rather than next.....

    I really don´t see both Canada and Finland beating Sweden, I kind of have doubts that even one of them will beat the Swedes, it seems that in the 2nd half of tonight´s game they have finally overcome their troubles with shooting efficiency.....also now that the SEL play-offs are over they will probably have one more big reinforcement comming- Jonas Brodin- they have left a free spot on the roster for him....

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    Group A; Day 2-Game 4

    Switzerland - Germany 1:4 (0:2, 1:1, 0:1)
    0:1 - 12.15 Tobias Rieder (Keller, Pfoderl) PP1
    0:2 - 15.10 Tobias Rieder(2)
    0:3 - 27.39 Kilian Keller (Reimer, Sekesi)
    1:3 - 36.40 Dario Simion (Kukan, Hachler) PP1
    1:4 - 58.31 Daniel Fischbuch (Haase) EN
    PIM: 4x2 - 5x2 SOG: 45-46 Att: 3053
    Refs: Johansson Morgan (Swe), Klein Devin (Can) Linesmen: Dahmen Jimmy (Swe), Dussureault Francois (Can)
    Goalkeepers: Luca Boltshauser 43/46 - Marvin Cupper 44/45
    SUI: Boltshauser Luca; Hachler Cedric +A, Kukan Dean, Richard Tanner, Bertaggia Alessio, Bertschy Christoph, Guerra Samuel, Kreis Sami, Martschini Lino +A, Amstutz Reto, Andrighetto Sven, Marti Christian, Hebeisen Silvan, Grassi Daniele, Schmutz Julian, Neuenschwander Jan +A, Leu Marwin, Celio Yannic, Balmelli Lukas, Simion Dario, Hoffmann Luka
    GER: Cupper Marvin; Meirandres Max +A, Pfoderl Leonhard, Rieder Tobias, Keller Kilian, Latta Nickolas, Kronthaler Stephan +C, Mebus Oliver, Grozinger Lars, Fischbuch Daniel, Kretschmann Christian, Haase Henry +A, Bar Steven, Ackermann Alexander, Daxlberger Dominik, Uvira Sebastian, Faber Maximilian, Sekesi Huba, Reimer Dennis, Tiffels Frederik, Solder Niklas

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    Group B; Day 2-Game 4

    Czech Republic - Canada 0:5 (0:3, 0:0, 0:2)
    0:1 - 01.10 Eric Locke (Murphy, Quine)
    0:2 - 03.44 Morgan Rielly (Quine, McNeill)
    0:3 - 14.28 Mark Scheifele (Murray) PP1
    0:4 - 50.52 Mark Scheifele(2) (Catenacci, Murray)
    0:5 - 54.33 Ryan Murphy (Murray, Cousins)
    PIM: 6x2 - 6x2 SOG: 26-29 Att: 2027
    Refs: Sidorenko Maxim (Blr), Stricker Daniel (Sui) Linesmen: Horinek Martin (Svk), Wahl Derek (Usa)
    Goalkeepers: Matej Machovsky 24/29 - Malcolm Subban 26/26
    CZE: Machovsky Matej; Pavelka Tomas, Hrbas Marek +C, Frk Martin, Hyka Tomas, Faksa Radek, Sidlik Petr, Musil David, Hampl Ondrej, Hertl Tomas, Jaskin Dmitrij, Jenik Stepan, Ruzicka Antonin, Sedlak Lukas +A, Svihalek Michal +A, Rousek Tomas, Moravec Tomas, Beranek Petr, Beran Matej
    CAN: Subban Malcolm; Murray Ryan +C, Ceci Cody, Catenacci Daniel, Ritchie Brett +A, Scheifele Mark, Harrington Scott +A, Murphy Ryan, Locke Eric, Quine Alan, McNeill Mark, Koekkeok Slater, Scarlett Reece, Smith Colin, Cousins Nick, Ewanyk Travis, Rielly Morgan, Andrews Brent, Brassard Austen, Hudon Charles, Griffith Seth

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    Group B; Day 3-Game 5

    Canada - Finland 5:4 (1:0, 1:2, 3:2)
    1:0 - 03.24 Eric Locke (Murphy, McNeill) PP1
    1:1 - 23.37 Joel Armia (Aaltonen, Kallela) PP1
    1:2 - 31.56 Olli Maatta (Kallela, Armia)
    2:2 - 37.46 Ryan Murphy (Smith)
    2:3 - 41.06 Joel Armia(2) PP1
    3:3 - 50.05 Mark Scheifele (Ceci)
    4:3 - 50.45 Nick Cousins (Murray)
    5:3 - 54.44 Colin Smith
    5:4 - 58.04 Olli Maatta(2) (Granlund, Armia) PP1
    PIM: 11x2+1x10 - 8x2 SOG: 35-38 Att: 1625
    Refs: Grumsen Jacob (Den), Vasilyev Alexei (Rus) Linesmen: Birin Viktor (Rus), Muller Joris (Sui)
    Goalkeepers: Malcolm Subban 34/38 - Samu Perhonen 30/35
    CAN: Subban Malcolm; Murray Ryan +C, Ceci Cody, Catenacci Daniel, Ritchie Brett +A, Scheifele Mark, Harrington Scott +A, Murphy Ryan, Locke Eric, Quine Alan, McNeill Mark, Koekkeok Slater, Scarlett Reece, Smith Colin, Cousins Nick, Ewanyk Travis, Rielly Morgan, Andrews Brent, Brassard Austen, Hudon Charles, Griffith Seth
    FIN: Perhonen Samu; Maatta Olli +A, Salonen Aleksi, Kallela Toni, Granlund Markus +C, Armia Joel, Auvinen Henri, Pokka Ville, Aaltonen Miro, Jarvelainen Ville, Salomaki Miikka +A, Tommila Juho, Valkonen Joonas, Liedes Heikki, Torniainen Kalle, Wilenius Tomi, Lindbohm Petteri, Hannikainen Markus, Teravainen Teuvo, Rekonen Aleksi, Henritius Teemu

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    Group A; Day 3-Game 5

    Germany - Russia 4:5/SO (0:3, 3:0, 1:1, 0:0-0:1)
    0:1 - 06.25 Roman Konkov (Nesterov)
    0:2 - 09.46 Roman Konkov(2) (Kucherov, Yarullin) PP1
    0:3 - 12.01 Maxim Shalunov PS
    1:3 - 29.34 Nickolas Latta (Fischbuch, Mebus) PP1
    2:3 - 36.34 Alexander Ackermann (Keller, Grozinger) PP1
    3:3 - 37.56 Dominik Daxlberger (Pfoderl, Bar) PP2
    3:4 - 49.29 Anton Saveliev (Grigorenko) PP1
    4:4 - 50.00 Lars Grozinger (Sekesi)
    4:5 - 65.00 Nikita Kucherov
    PIM: 7x2 - 7x2+2x10+1x5x20 SOG: 41-51 Att: 4060
    Refs: Salminen Teemu (Fin), Solem Per Gustav (Nor) Linesmen: Dalton Andrew (Gbr), Pesek Tomas (Cze)
    Goalkeepers: Marvin Cupper 46/51 - Pavel Shegalo 37/41
    GER: Cupper Marvin; Meirandres Max +A, Pfoderl Leonhard, Rieder Tobias, Keller Kilian, Latta Nickolas, Kronthaler Stephan +C, Mebis Oliver, Grozinger Lars, Fischbuch Daniel, Kretschmann Christian, Haase Henry +A, Bar Steven, Ackermann Alexander, Daxlberger Dominik, Uvira, Faber Maximilian, Sekesi Huba, Reimer Dennis, Tiffels Frederik, Solder Niklas
    RUS: Shegalo Pavel; Nesterov Nikita, Yarullin Albert +C, Konkov Roman, Kucherov Nikita, Grigorenko Mikhail, Pedan Andrei, Shuvalov Maxim, Yakupov Nail +A, Slepyshev Anton, Yakimov Bogdan, Vasilevski Alexei, Ivanyuzhenkov Anton, Shalunov Maxim +A, Tkachev Vladimir, Sabinin Gennadi, Saveliev Anton, Mikhailov Dmitri, Smurov Sergei, Kuvayev Alexander

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    Man way to be resilient Germany!

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    Was a great game yesterday evening at Crimmitschau. Great first period of the russian team. But in the second the germans put some more toughness in their game what the russian didn't like at all. They picked some unnecessary penalties and the german team were able to come back and tie it at 3-3 after 40 minutes. In this phase the crowd of 4.000 spectators was also a factor and it was great to see how the guys endjoyed to play the game with this great support. When Russia scored the 3:4 in the middle of the third in powerplay everyone thought, that's it but only 31 seconds later Grozinger with a superb individual play to tie the game again. It was hard work to secure this one point and send the game into overtime but they deserved it. At the end of overtime the germans even had the chance to decide the game with two men advantage but they were too exhausted to play this powerful enough. So we also got a shootout to find a winner. Here the russians could show their individual talent and they secured the second point with two successful shots, Germany only scored once. Regardless to is, it was a great evening and I can't wait for this evenings game United States vs. Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caligula View Post
    who were these fans? dont think some one took theyr prediction seriously.
    Maybe he is referring to my provocations in another forum. I still think that we will be beaten in the first playoff game.
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    Group A; Day 4-Game 6

    Slovakia - Switzerland 2:3 (1:2, 0:0, 1:1)
    0:1 - 01.48 Tanner Richard (Martschini, Bertaggia)
    1:1 - 03.22 Denis Hudec (Nechala, Ceresnak) PP1
    1:2 - 09.07 Sven Andrighetto (Grassi)
    2:2 - 41.59 Peter Boltun (Gernat, Bagin)
    2:3 - 50.47 Christoph Bertschy SH1
    PIM: 6x2 - 6x2+1x10 SOG: 28-32 Att: 624
    Refs: Johansson Morgan (Swe), Sidorenko Maxim (Blr) Linesmen: Dalton Andrew (Gbr), Suominen Sakari (Fin)
    Goalkeepers: Patrik Rybar 29/32 - Luca Boltshauser 26/28
    SVK: Rybar Patrik; Bagin Emil, Gernat Martin, Vasko Filip, Mraz Bruno, Boltun Peter, Nechala Tomas, Ceresnak Peter +C, Mraz Richard, Dano Marko, Hindos Matej, Korim Karol, Bezuska Peter, Mikus Tomas +A, Hudec Denis +A, Dolnik Vladimir, Luza Patrik, Bires Andrej, Bezuch Juraj, Rapac Branislav
    SUI: Boltshauser Luca; Hachler Cedric +A, Marti Christian, Richard Tanner, Bertaggia Alessio, Martschini Lino +A, Kukan Dean, Hebeisen Silvan, Schmutz Julian, Amstutz Reto, Bertschy Christoph, Guerra Samuel, Kreis Sami, Grassi Daniele, Neuenschwander Jan +C, Andrighetto Sven, Leu Marwin, Celio Yannic, Balmelli Lukas, Simion Dario, Hoffmann Luka

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    Group B; Day 4-Game 6

    Norway - Czech Republic 2:3 (1:0, 1:2, 0:1)
    1:0 - 02.19 Andreas Heier (Medby)
    1:1 - 20.18 Martin Frk (Hyka)
    2:1 - 33.28 Jorgen Karterud (Noteng)
    2:2 - 38.13 Tomas Rousek (Svihalek)
    2:3 - 58.12 Dmitrij Jaskin (Hrbas) PP1
    PIM: 7x2 - 6x2 SOG: 18-51 Att: 878
    Refs: Kubus Jozef (Svk), Stricker Daniel (Sui) Linesmen: Birin Viktor (Rus), Horinek Martin (Svk)
    Goalkeepers: Steffen Soberg 48/51 - Matej Machovsky 16/18
    NOR: Soberg Steffen; Nasgaard John Nicolay, Lesund Erlend, Hoff Magnus +C, Karterud Jorgen, Weberg Sebastian, Salo Espen +A, Noteng Markus, Soberg Markus, Knutsen Jonas +A, Trettnees Mathias, Bjorsland Martin, Haaland Iver, Medby Endre, Heier Andreas, Aslaksen Adrian, Saves Sebastian, Pedersen Markus, Lund Martin, Salsten Eirik
    CZE: Machovsky Matej; Kvapil Tomas, Hrbas Marek +C, Frk Martin, Hyka Tomas, Faksa Radek, Sidlik Petr, Musil David, Matai Jakub, Svihalek Michal +A, Rousek Tomas, Jenik Stepan, Ruzicka Antonin, Sedlak Lukas +A, Hampl Ondrej, Jaskin Dmitrij, Pavelka Tomas, Moravec Tomas, Hertl Tomas, Beranek Petr, Beran Matej

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHKStarkovs View Post
    Slovakia - Switzerland 2:3 (1:2, 0:0, 1:1)
    0:1 - 01.48 Tanner Richard (Martschini, Bertaggia)
    1:1 - 03.22 Denis Hudec (Nechala, Ceresnak) PP1
    1:2 - 09.07 Sven Andrighetto (Grassi)
    2:2 - 41.59 Peter Boltun (Gernat, Bagin)
    2:3 - 50.47 Christoph Bertschy SH1
    PIM: 6x2 - 6x2+1x10 SOG: 28-32 Att: 624
    Refs: Johansson Morgan (Swe), Sidorenko Maxim (Blr) Linesmen: Dalton Andrew (Gbr), Suominen Sakari (Fin)
    Goalkeepers: Patrik Rybar 29/32 - Luca Boltshauser 26/28
    SVK: Rybar Patrik; Bagin Emil, Gernat Martin, Vasko Filip, Mraz Bruno, Boltun Peter, Nechala Tomas, Ceresnak Peter +C, Mraz Richard, Dano Marko, Hindos Matej, Korim Karol, Bezuska Peter, Mikus Tomas +A, Hudec Denis +A, Dolnik Vladimir, Luza Patrik, Bires Andrej, Bezuch Juraj, Rapac Branislav
    SUI: Boltshauser Luca; Hachler Cedric +A, Marti Christian, Richard Tanner, Bertaggia Alessio, Martschini Lino +A, Kukan Dean, Hebeisen Silvan, Schmutz Julian, Amstutz Reto, Bertschy Christoph, Guerra Samuel, Kreis Sami, Grassi Daniele, Neuenschwander Jan +C, Andrighetto Sven, Leu Marwin, Celio Yannic, Balmelli Lukas, Simion Dario, Hoffmann Luka
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    Im surprised that Slovakia didn't have a single major junior player. Say what you want about playing at home or in the CHL, but at least in the CHL you get ice time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neugs View Post
    Im surprised that Slovakia didn't have a single major junior player. Say what you want about playing at home or in the CHL, but at least in the CHL you get ice time.
    Really? We didn´t have that many 1993 players playing CHL this year anyway, but most of them didn´t have such a great ice-time and I´m pretty sure these kids that mainly played for their U20 (sometimes even U18) teams in Slovakia got loads and loads of ice-time.

    The reason why we´re missing the CHL players is not because they weren´t wanted, but because of different reasons totally. (the key one being that they don´t exist- well much of them doesn´t exist). In the dub there was only Michal Hlinka, who was originally on the WHC team, but got injured during trainign camp. Also, Marek Tvrdoň, the top 1993 born forward has been injured since the start of the season. There were none in the OHL. In the Q there was only D David Bajaník , who has been sent home from Team Slovakia for some reason, so I guess there´s the only case where you could ask why he´s not there. There also was Matúš Matis at the start of the seaosn in the QMJHL, but he was poor there and was sent back to the GMHL. All in all the only from these players that could really make a difference in the results is Tvrdoň and he´d been there if he wasn´t out. Anyway, we had it long time comming and the reasons are way too deep and to be found in much younger categories than the U18 or the U20 are or in the absence of CHL players.
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    I agree with jaaa

    and by he way, there will be a slovak team playing MHL, I know about players (from current U18) who have offers from MHL and CHL for next season. Would be interesting how they will decide. Maybe number of slovaks in CHL will decrease..
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    Quote Originally Posted by vorky View Post
    I agree with jaaa

    and by he way, there will be a slovak team playing MHL, I know about players (from current U18) who have offers from MHL and CHL for next season. Would be interesting how they will decide. Maybe number of slovaks in CHL will decrease..
    The numbers of Slovaks in the CHL have been decreasing gradually in the past few years anyway. (of course the U20 team in Extraliga being one reason, but it´s also because of the decrease in quality of players).

    I think that maybe even more interesting are the rumours about the reorganization of Slovak youth/junior leagues, though since it could include a Polish team in the top U18 league- Extraliga dorastu (with all respect), I´m not sure whether I´d like it.

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    Lol have some anti-Polish sentiment? ;)

    But seriously I have noticed a decline in Slovaks in the CHL...was the year that Janus, and Tatar stole the U20 show a fluke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaaa View Post
    The numbers of Slovaks in the CHL have been decreasing gradually in the past few years anyway. (of course the U20 team in Extraliga being one reason, but it´s also because of the decrease in quality of players).

    I think that maybe even more interesting are the rumours about the reorganization of Slovak youth/junior leagues, though since it could include a Polish team in the top U18 league- Extraliga dorastu (with all respect), I´m not sure whether I´d like it.
    of course, I agree with you.. one reason is Orange U20, second lower quality of players, next maybe MHL.. who know? what is best? to play CHL, MHL, reorganisation of youth leagues? but it is another topic..

    I would agree with polish team in U18 lowe league.. not elite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neugs View Post
    Lol have some anti-Polish sentiment? ;)

    But seriously I have noticed a decline in Slovaks in the CHL...was the year that Janus, and Tatar stole the U20 show a fluke?
    No, of course not, they´re real nice people. But with all respect i could see them playing the 2nd level of U18 as vorky says at best. If in the top league than only if it were a Polish select team- something like Riga or Minsk in the MHL. There is already too much Slovak teams in the U18 league as it is, which makes the league weaker. Of course it is always good to help out your neighbours, but we are in too much crap ourselves and in no position to be helping "lesser" hockey countries at the moment.
    Hm, fluke? I dunno, it was one goalie standing on his head and one forward having the tournament of his live as long as they have succesful careers in the future it´s not a fluke. Everyone could see that even in 2009 WJC was no way a matching opponent for the top teams as a whole.

    vorky, yes, it is kind of OT, maybe we can discuss it in one of the Slovakia forum threads (there´s an old one "The State of Slovak Hockey" that would be agood fit). I´m pretty sure that the reorganozation of the youth leagues is a much better solution than either the MHL or CHL (which is aimed at a much smaller number of players than the reorganization) especially if it were done the rigth way and included for example the creation of a nationwide U16 league, which we are lacking at the moment (The best teams from West, Central and East would get to play each other, higher level of play, higher speed and they would be way more ready for the speed of international competition than they are comming of playing the 9.ŠHT and all the top teams want such a league as a bonus) among other things.

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    Group B; Day 4-Game 7

    Sweden - Finland 5:2 (1:1, 3:0, 1:1)
    1:0 - 06.26 Jeremy Boyce-Rotevall (Rask, Brodin) PP1
    1:1 - 12.34 Toni Kallela (Granlund, Salonen) PP1
    2:1 - 24.39 Emil Lundberg (Arvidsson) PP1
    3:1 - 31.53 William Karlsson (Nilsson, Bjorklund)
    4:1 - 32.12 Mika Zibanejad (Bengtsson)
    5:1 - 48.50 William Karlsson(2) (Forsberg, Bengtsson) PP1
    5:2 - 52.58 Ville Jarvelainen (Armia) PP2
    PIM: 8x2 - 8x2 SOG: 40-14 Att: 1114
    Refs: Brueggemann Lars (Ger), Warschaw Shane (Usa) Linesmen: Kowert Andreas (Ger), Wahl Derek (Usa)
    Goalkeepers: Niklas Lundstrom 12/14 - Richard Ullberg 35/40
    SWE: Lundstrom Niklas; Brodin Jonas, Klefbom Oscar +C, Boyce-Rotevall Jeremy, Rask Victor, Zibanejad Mika +A, Bengtsson Rasmus, Johansson Karl +A, Arvidsson Viktor, Nermark Joachim, Lundberg Emil, Nilsson Tom, Vikstrand Mikael, Bjorklund Gustav, Karlsson William, Forsberg Filip, Blomkvist Albin, Blomstrand Ludwig, Lilliestrom Karlsson David, Wedin Anton, Froberg Linus
    FIN: Ullberg Richard; Maatta Olli +A, Salonen Aleksi, Kallela Toni, Granlund Markus +C, Armia Joel, Auvinen Henri, Pokka Ville, Aaltonen Miro, Jarvelainen Ville, Salomaki Miikka +A, Tommila Juho, Valkonen Joonas, Liedes Heikki, Teravainen Teuvo, Torniainen Kalle, Lindbohm Petteri, Hannikainen Markus, Rekonen Aleksi, Wilenius Tomi, Henritius Teemu

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    Group A; Day 4-Game 7

    United States - Russia 4:3 (2:0, 1:1, 1:2)
    1:0 - 07.07 Travis Boyd (Kerdiles)
    2:0 - 11.02 JT Miller (Russo) PP1
    2:1 - 25.04 Nikita Kucherov (Yakupov, Yarullin)
    3:1 - 26.22 JT Miller(2) (Boucher)
    3:2 - 43.35 Nail Yakupov (Yarullin, Grigorenko) PP1
    3:3 - 55.16 Nikita Kucherov(2) (Yarullin, Yakupov)
    4:3 - 59.39 Reid Boucher (Grimaldi)
    PIM: 5x2 - 3x2 SOG: 40-39 Att: 2216
    Refs: Klein Devin (Can), Sir Robin (Cze) Linesmen: Dahmen Jimmy (Swe), Dussureault Francois (Can)
    Goalkeepers: John Gibson 36/39 - Andrei Vasilevski 36/40
    USA: Gibson John; Kaib Barrett, Reid Adam, Larrza Zach, Haggerty Ryan, Carlson Dan, Trouba Jacob, Jones Seth, Kerdiles Nick, Biggs Tyler +A, Boyd Travis, Paliotta Michael, McCabe Jake, Miller JT, Boucher Reid, Crimaldi Rocco, Murphy Connor, Russo Robbie +C, Pietila Blake, Samuelsson Henrik, Bardreau Cole +A
    RUS: Vasilevski Andrei; Nesterov Nikita, Yarullin Albert +C, Konkov Roman, Kucherov Nikita, Grigorenko Mikhail, Pedan Andrei, Shuvalov Maxim, Yakupov Nail +A, Slepyshev Anton, Yakimov Bogdan, Vasilevski Alexei, Vorshev Konstantin +A, Ivanyuzhenkov Anton, Shalunov Maxim, Tkachev Vladimir, Sabinin Gennadi, Saveliev Anton, Mikhailov Dmitri, Smurov Sergei, Kuvayev Alexander

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    From the looks of the stats that Russia-USA game looks like it was a dandy. Im excited to watch once TSN starts covering it...(last round robin game Canada v Sweden) and then onwards as far as Canada goes.

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    Sweden is through in group B. It could end up as a three-way tie between FIN, CZE and SWE, but if I have done the math correctly Sweden is through regardless.

    Looks tough for Slovakia. Looks like they are heading for the relegation round together with Switzerland. That means that they have one loss starting the relegation series. A win against Norway is most probable, but they will have to win against either Finland or Czech Republic to stay in the top division. They may be able to stay up with only one win, but that needs some more unprobable results...
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    Group A; Day 4-Game 8

    Germany - Slovakia 0:4 (0:2, 0:2, 0:0)
    0:1 - 03.02 Bruno Mraz (Boltun, Vasko)
    0:2 - 06.29 Tomas Mikus (Hindos, Dolnik) PP1
    0:3 - 28.31 Vladimir Dolnik (Hindos)
    0:4 - 33.52 Vladimir Dolnik(2) (Hindos, Dano)
    PIM: 9x2 - 4x2 SOG: 30-33 Att: 2037
    Refs: Salminen Teemu (Fin), Solem Per Gustav (Nor) Linesmen: Dalton Andrew (Gbr), Pesek Tomas (Cze)
    Goalkeepers: Marvin Cupper 29/33 - Patrik Rybar 30/30
    GER: Cupper Marvin; Meirandres Max +A, Keller Kilian, Pfoderl Leonhard, Tiffels Frederik, Latta Nickolas, Kronthaler Stephan +C, Mebus Oliver, Grozinger Lars, Fischbuch Daniel, Kretschmann Christian, Haase Henry +A, Bar Steven, Ackermann Alexander, Daxlberger Dominik, Uvira Sebastian, Faber Maximilian, Sekesi Huba, Reimer Dennis, Solder Niklas
    SVK: Rybar Patrik; Bagin Emil, Gernat Martin, Vasko Filip, Mraz Bruno, Boltun Peter, Korim Karol, Bezuska Peter, Bires Andrej, Hindos Matej, Dolnik Vladimir, Luza Patrik, Nechala Tomas +A, Ceresnak Peter +C, Mikus Tomas +A, Rapac Branislav, Mraz Richard, Bezuch Juraj, Dano Marko

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    Group B; Day 4-Game 8

    Canada - Norway 5:0 (3:0, 1:0, 1:0)
    1:0 - 00.58 Nick Cousins (Ritchie, Scheifele)
    2:0 - 07.39 Mark Scheifele (McNeill) PP1
    3:0 - 12.23 Colin Smith (Andrews, Catenacci)
    4:0 - 30.06 Mark Scheifele (Murray, McNeill) PP1
    5:0 - 51.01 Slater Koekkoek (Hudon) PP1
    PIM: 3x2+1x10 - 7x2 SOG: 63-19 Att: 638
    Refs: Brueggemann Lars (Ger), Grumsen Jacob (Den) Linesmen: Kowert Andreas (Ger), Muller Joris (Sui)
    Goalkeepers: Andrew D'Agostini 19/19 - Steffan Soberg 58/63
    CAN: Subban Malcolm; Murray Ryan +C, Ceci Cody, Andrews Brent, Smith Colin, Ewanyk Travis, Harrington Scott +A, Murphy Ryan, Locke Eric, Quine Alan, McNeill Mark, Koekkeok Slater, Scarlett Reece, Cousins Nick, Ritchie Brett +A, Scheifele Mark, Rielly Morgan, Cateacci Daniel, Brassard Austen, Hudon Charles, Griffith Seth
    NOR: Soberg Steffan; Nasgaard John Nicolay, Lesund Erlend, Hoff Magnus +C, Karterud Jorgen, Weberg Sebastian, Salo Espen +A, Noteng Markus, Soberg Markus, Knutsen Jonas +A, Trettenes Mathias, Bjorsland Martin, Haaland Iver, Medby Endre, Heier Andreas, Aslaksen Adrian, Saves Sebastian, Pedersen Markus, Lund Martin, Fischer Magnus, Salsten Eirik

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    It is not entirely unconceivable that Russia will find themselves in the relegation round. If both Switzerland and Germany win their games today... Not likely but possible.
    Cum bibam cervisiam gaudeo.

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    Must have been some kind of performance by Soberg to keep Canada to 5!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennison View Post
    It is not entirely unconceivable that Russia will find themselves in the relegation round. If both Switzerland and Germany win their games today... Not likely but possible.
    With Russia leading with 4-0 after the first period this has now moved into the realm of not-going-to-happen.
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    Relegation round standings

    This will be the starting point for the teams fighting to avoid relegation:

    RK Team GP W OTW OTL L GF:GA (GD) TP
    1Czech Republic110003:2 (1) 3
    2Switzerland110003:2 (1) 3
    3Slovakia100012:3 (-1) 0
    4Norway100012:3 (-1) 0

    Finland just avoided the relegation round with that last goal at 59.29 in the third period... They had to win by two to pass CZE in case of a three way tie between FIN, CZE and SWE...
    Cum bibam cervisiam gaudeo.

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    Group A; Day 5-Game 9

    Russia - Switzerland 8:3 (4:0, 3:2, 1:1)
    1:0 - 04.01 Nail Yakupov (Grigorenko, Kucherov)
    2:0 - 09.10 Mikhail Grigorenko (Yakupov, Yarullin) SH1
    3:0 - 16.54 Nikita Nesterov (Yakupov, Yarullin)
    4:0 - 19.52 Nikita Kucherov (Yakupov, Grigorenko) PP1
    5:0 - 30.34 Nikita Kucherov(2) (Grigorenko, Yakupov) PP1
    5:1 - 30.58 Dario Simion (Hoffmann, Kukan)
    6:1 - 33.37 Bogdan Yakimov (Slepyshev, Mikhailov)
    6:2 - 33.53 Jan Neuenschwander (Andrighetto)
    7:2 - 39.25 Mikhail Grigorenko(2) (Kucherov)
    8:2 - 51.24 Nikita Kucherov(3) (Grigorenko) SH1
    8:3 - 53.38 Sven Andrighetto
    PIM: 9x2 - 7x2 SOG: 23-49 Att: 1010
    Refs: Sidorenko Maxim (Blr), Sir Robin (Cze) Linesmen: Dahmen Jimmy (Swe), Suominen Sakari (Fin)
    Goalkeepers: Andrei Vasilevski 35/37 (Pavel Shegalo 11/12) - Luca Boltshauser 10/16 (Robin Kuonen 5/7)
    RUS: Vasilevski Andrei (08.36 Shegalo Pavel); Nesterov Nikita, Yarullin Albert +C, Yakupov Nail +A, Kucherov Nikita, Grigorenko Mikhail, Pedan Andrei, Shuvalov Maxim, Mikhailov Dmitri, Slepyshev Anton, Yakimov Bogdan, Vasilevski Alexei, Vorshev Konstantin +A, Ivanyuzhenkov Anton, Shalunov Maxim, Tkachev Vladimir, Sabinin Gennadi, Saveliev Anton, Konkov Roman, Smurov Sergei, Kuvayev Alexander
    SUI: Boltshauser Luca (26.23 Kuonen Robin); Guerra Samuel, Kreis Sami, Grassi Daniele, Neuenschwander Jan +A, Andrighetto Sven, Kukan Dean, Hebeisen Silvan, Bertaggia Alessio, Amstutz Reot, Bertschy Christoph, Hachler Cedric +A, Marti Christian, Richard Tanner, Schmutz Julian, Martschini Lino +A, Leu Marwin, Celico Yannic, Balmelli Lukas, Simion Dario, Hoffmann Luka

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    Group B; Day 5-Game 9

    Finland - Czech Republic 5:3 (0:1, 1:1, 4:1)
    0:1 - 18.56 Dmitrij Jaskin (Frk)
    1:1 - 32.18 Miro Aaltonen (Armia)
    1:2 - 39.05 Tomas Rousek (Svihalek)
    2:2 - 40.46 Ville Jarvelainen (Granlund) PP2
    2:3 - 51.21 Lukas Sedlak (Frk)
    3:3 - 54.43 Joel Armia (Salonen)
    4:3 - 55.16 Toni Kallela (Maatta)
    5:3 - 59.29 Markus Hannikainen (Granlund)
    PIM: 9x2 - 6x2 SOG: 27-30 Att: 1048
    Refs: Stricker Daniel (Sui), Vasilyev Alexei (Rus) Linesmen: Birin Viktor (Rus), Wahl Derek (Usa)
    Goalkeepers: Samu Perhonen 27/30 - Matej Machovsky 22/27
    FIN: Perhonen Samu; Maatta Olli +A, Salonen Aleksi, Kalllela Toni, Granlund Markus +A, Armia Joel, Auvinen Henri, Pokka Ville, Aaltonen Miro, Harvelainen Ville, Salomaki Miikka +A, Tommmila Juho, Valkonen Joonas, Liedes Heikki, Tervainen Teuvo, Wilenius Tomi, Lindbohm Petteri, Hannikainen Markus, Reskonen Aleksi, Torniainen Kalle, Henritius Teemu
    CZE: Machovsky Matej; Kvapil Tomas, Hrbas Marek +C, Frk Martin, Sedlak Lukas +A, Hyka Tomas, Siklik Petr, Musil David, Hampl Ondrej, Hertl Tomas, Jaskin Dmitrij, Jenik Stepan, Ruzicka Antonin, Matai Jakub, Svihalek Michal +A, Rousek Tomas, Pavelka Tomas, Moravec Tomas, Faksa Radek, Beranek Petr, Beran Matej

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    In the final round the quarter finals will be

    Russia vs. Finland in the early game on Thursday
    Loser Sweden/Canada vs. Germany in the late game

    USA and the winner Sweden/Canada gets the bye to the semi-finals.
    Cum bibam cervisiam gaudeo.

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    Continental Cup

    Switzerland -Russland SOG : 49-23 !!! Score 3-8 !!
    Swissgoalkeeper Boltshauser 62,50 % !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohiba View Post
    Switzerland -Russland SOG : 49-23 !!! Score 3-8 !!
    Swissgoalkeeper Boltshauser 62,50 % !!!!
    Anybody has watched the games? I am quite curious about what it is with this Russian team, making so many goals on so few chances and letting opponents get so many shots?

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    You should've seen the 3rd goal by Nesterov. Swiss goalkeeper had no chances whatsoever.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paFOjU1c3vY

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    Quote Originally Posted by ult View Post
    You should've seen the 3rd goal by Nesterov. Swiss goalkeeper had no chances whatsoever.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paFOjU1c3vY
    Nothing specially . You should've seen the 3rd goal swiss : a coast to coast by Andrighetto,

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    Sweden 4, Canada 2...........wow....Canucks give up 4 goals in the 3rd and blow a 2 goal lead. WTH. Hate when that happens.

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    .......surrender 3 goals in the first 11 periods...........but 4 in the 12th. Aaaauuuuughhhhhhh.

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    Group A; Day 5-Game 10

    United States - Germany 7:3 (2:0, 4:2, 1:1)
    1:0 - 01.02 JT Miller (Boucher, Grimaldi)
    2:0 - 12.40 Reid Boucher (Miller, Grimaldi)
    2:1 - 28.26 Sebastian Uvira (Ackermann, Grozinger) PP1
    3:1 - 29.16 Rocco Grimaldi (Miller, Murphy)
    3:2 - 30.00 Daniel Fischbuch (Meirandres)
    4:2 - 30.26 Reid Boucher(2) (Russo, Jones) PP1
    5:2 - 35.43 Adam Reid (Kaib)
    6:2 - 39.19 Tyler Biggs (Boyd, Kerdiles)
    6:3 - 46.28 Leonhard Pfoderl (Mebus, Ackermann) PP2
    7:3 - 55.05 Blake Pietila (Larraza, Kaib)
    PIM: 3x2+1x5x20 - 3x2+1x10 SOG: 43-27 Att: 3743
    Refs: Johansson Morgan (Swe), Klein Devin (Can) Linesmen: Dalton Andrew (Gbr), Dussureault Francois (Can)
    Goalkeepers: John Gibson 24/27 - Philip Lehr 36/43
    USA: Gibson John; Kaib Barrett, Reid Adam, Samuelsson Henrik, Haggerty Ryan, Carlson Dan, Trouba Jacob, Jones Seth, Kerdiles Nick, Biggs Tyler +A, Boyd Travis, Paliotta Michael, McCabe Jake, Miller JT, Boucher Reid, Grimaldi Rocco, Murphy Connor, Russo Robbie +C, Pietila Blake, Larraza Zach, Bardreau Cole +A
    GER: Lehr Philip; Meirandres Max +A, Keller Kilian, Pfoderl Leonhard, Fischbuch Daniel, Latta Nickolas, Kronthaler Stephan +C, Mebus Oliver, Grozinger Lars, Kretschmann Christian, Tiffels Frederik, Haase Henry +A, Bar Steven, Ackermann Alexander, Daxlberger Dominik, Uvira Sebastian, Faber Maximilian, Sekesi Huba, Reimer Dennis, Solder Niklas

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    Group B; Day 5-Game 10

    Sweden - Canada 4:2 (0:1, 0:0, 4:1)
    0:1 - 12.59 Nick Cousins
    0:2 - 41.47 Ryan Murphy
    1:2 - 42.04 Linus Froberg (Klefbom)
    2:2 - 54.14 Gustav Bjorklund (Forsberg)
    3:2 - 54.52 Oscar Klefbom
    4:2 - 59.34 Joachim Nermark PP1 EN
    PIM: 5x2+1x10 - 7x2+1x10 SOG: 36-22 Att: 2098
    Refs: Kubus Jozef (Svk), Warschaw Shane (Usa) Linesmen: Horinek Martin (Svk), Muller Joris (Sui)
    Goalkeepers: Niklas Lundstrom 20/22 - Malcolm Subban 32/35
    SWE: Lundstrom Niklas; Brodin Jonas, Klefbom Oscar +C, Boyce-Rotevall Jeremy, Rask Victor, Zibanejad Mika +A, Bengtsson Rasmus, Johansson Karl +A, Arvidsson Viktor, Nermark Joachim, Lundberg Emil, Nilsson Tom, Vikstrand Mikael, Bjorklund Gustav, Karlsson William, Forsberg Filip, Blomkvist Albin, Blomstrand Ludwig, Lilliestrom Karlsson David, Wedin Anton, Froberg Linus
    CAN: Subban Malcolm; Murray Ryan +C, Ceci Cody, Cousins Nick, Ritchie Brett +A, Scheifele Mark, Harrington Scott +A, Murphy Ryan, Andrews Brent, Smith Colin, Ewanyk Travis, Koekkeok Slater, Scarlett Reece, Locke Eric, Quine Alan, McNeill Mark, Rielly Morgan, Catenacci Daniel, Brassard Austen, Hudon Charles, Griffith Seth

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaptajnen22 View Post
    Anybody has watched the games? I am quite curious about what it is with this Russian team, making so many goals on so few chances and letting opponents get so many shots?
    Well Russians pass the puck 'till they get a good scoring chance, historically and usually, that's why our shot count is never high.
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