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    120 strongest teams in Europe by budget

    I found this list on another forum, so I thought I could post it here. :)

    The currency is in Norwegian. €1 = 7,6NOK, $1 = 5,7NOK



    • Top 10 : 370 - 185 millioner NOK
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      Top 50 : 370 - 55 millioner NOK
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      Top 100 : 370 - 27,5 millioner NOK
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      Top 120 : 370 - 18,4 millioner NOK
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    1. Salavat Yulaev
      Budsjett: 370 millioner NOK
    2. Lokomotiv Yaroslavl
      Budsjett: 300 millioner NOK
    3. Akbars Kazan
      Budsjett: 280 millioner NOK
    4. SKA St.Petersbourg
      Budsjett: 280 millioner NOK
    5. Avangard Omsk
      Budsjett: 280 millioner NOK
    6. Metallurg Magnitogorsk
      Budsjett: 270 millioner NOK
    7. Atlant
      Budsjett: 250 millioner NOK
    8. Bern
      Budsjett: 221,8 millioner NOK
    9. Dynamo Moscow
      Budsjett: 185 millioner NOK
    10. Sibir Novosibirsk
      Budsjett: 185 millioner NOK
    11. CSKA Moscow
      Budsjett: 180 millioner NOK
    12. Severstal Cherepovets
      Budsjett: 180 millioner NOK
    13. Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk
      Budsjett: 180 millioner NOK
    14. Dinamo Minsk
      Budsjett: 150 millioner NOK
    15. HK MVD Balashikha
      Budsjett: 150 millioner NOK
    16. Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod
      Budsjett: 150 millioner NOK
    17. Davos
      Budsjett: 127,3 millioner NOK
    18. Spartak Moscow
      Budsjett: 125 millioner NOK
    19. Lev Poprad
      Budsjett: 115 millioner NOK
    20. Metallurg Novokuznetsk
      Budsjett: 110 millioner NOK
    21. Amur Khabarovsk
      Budsjett: 105 millioner NOK
    22. ZSC
      Budsjett: 102 millioner NOK
    23. Traktor Chelyabinsk
      Budsjett: 100 millioner NOK
    24. Vityaz Chekhov
      Budsjett: 95 millioner NOK
    25. Färjestad
      Budsjett: 92 millioner NOK
    26. Dinamo Rīga
      Budsjett: 90 millioner NOK
    27. Khimik Voskresensk
      Budsjett: 90 millioner NOK
    28. Zug
      Budsjett: 88,7 millioner NOK
    29. Kloten
      Budsjett: 88,7 millioner NOK
    30. Rubin Tyumen
      Budsjett: 86 millioner NOK
    31. Lugano
      Budsjett: 85,5 millioner NOK
    32. Gottéron
      Budsjett: 84,9 millioner NOK
    33. Skellefteå
      Budsjett: 84 millioner NOK
    34. Barys Astana
      Budsjett: 80 millioner NOK
    35. Genéve-Servette
      Budsjett: 78,5 millioner NOK
    36. Rapperswil
      Budsjett: 76 millioner NOK
    37. Ambri-Piotta
      Budsjett: 69,7 millioner NOK
    38. Ermak Angarsk
      Budsjett: 64 millioner NOK
    39. SCL
      Budsjett: 62,7 millioner NOK
    40. HV 71
      Budsjett: 62 millioner NOK
    41. Djurgården
      Budsjett: 62 millioner NOK
    42. Kärpät
      Budsjett: 60 millioner NOK
    43. HIFK
      Budsjett: 59 millioner NOK
    44. Eisbären Berlin
      Budsjett: 59 millioner NOK
    45. Adler Mannheim
      Budsjett: 58 millioner NOK
    46. Lukko
      Budsjett: 58 millioner NOK
    47. Biel
      Budsjett: 57 millioner NOK
    48. Frölunda
      Budsjett: 56 millioner NOK
    49. EC Salzburg
      Budsjett: 55 millioner NOK
    50. VMF St.Petersburg
      Budsjett: 55 millioner NOK
    51. Jokerit
      Budsjett: 54 millioner NOK
    52. Växjö
      Budsjett: 54 millioner NOK
    53. Hamburg Freezers
      Budsjett: 53 millioner NOK
    54. AIK
      Budsjett: 53 millioner NOK
    55. KalPa
      Budsjett: 52 millioner NOK
    56. ERC Ingolstadt
      Budsjett: 51 millioner NOK
    57. JYP
      Budsjett:51 millioner NOK
    58. Toros Neftekamsk
      Budsjett: 50 millioner NOK
    59. Sparta
      Budsjett: 49,1 millioner NOK
    60. Linköping
      Budsjett: 48 millioner NOK
    61. Pelicans
      Budsjett: 46 millioner NOK
    62. Timrå
      Budsjett: 46 millioner NOK
    63. Zauralie Kurgan
      Budsjett: 45 millioner NOK
    64. Liberec
      Budsjett: 44,5 millioner NOK
    65. DEG Metro
      Budsjett: 44 millioner NOK
    66. Neftyanik Almetyevsk
      Budsjett: 44 millioner NOK
    67. Pardubice
      Budsjett: 43,3 millioner NOK
    68. Kölner Haie
      Budsjett: 43 millioner NOK
    69. MODO
      Budsjett: 42 millioner NOK
    70. Lausanne
      Budsjett: 41 millioner NOK
    71. Hannover Scorpions
      Budsjett: 39 millioner NOK
    72. HPK
      Budsjett: 39 millioner NOK
    73. Brynäs
      Budsjett: 39 millioner NOK
    74. Nürnberg Ice Tigers
      Budsjett: 37,5 millioner NOK
    75. TPS
      Budsjett: 37,5 millioner NOK
    76. Ilves
      Budsjett: 37 millioner NOK
    77. Molot-Prikamye Perm
      Budsjett: 37 millioner NOK
    78. Tappara
      Budsjett: 37 millioner NOK
    79. Dynamo Tver
      Budsjett: 36 millioner NOK
    80. Ässät
      Budsjett: 36 millioner NOK
    81. Slavia
      Budsjett: 35,6 millioner NOK
    82. Kometa
      Budsjett: 35,3 millioner NOK
    83. Zlin
      Budsjett: 35,3 millioner NOK
    84. Dizel Penza
      Budsjett: 35 millioner NOK
    85. Iserlohn Roosters
      Budsjett: 35 millioner NOK
    86. EHC Wolfsburg
      Budsjett: 35 millioner NOK
    87. Klagenfurter AC
      Budsjett: 35 millioner NOK
    88. Luleå
      Budsjett: 34 millioner NOK
    89. Krefeld Pinguine
      Budsjett: 33,5 millioner NOK
    90. Lada Togliatti
      Budsjett: 33 millioner NOK
    91. Donbass Donetsk
      Budsjett: 32 millioner NOK
    92. Straubing Tigers
      Budsjett: 31 millioner NOK
    93. Blues
      Budsjett: 31 millioner NOK
    94. Vienna Capitals
      Budsjett: 31 millioner NOK
    95. Slovan Bratislava
      Budsjett: 31 millioner NOK
    96. Třinec
      Budsjett: 30,7 millioner NOK
    97. Krylya Sovetov
      Budsjett: 30 millioner NOK
    98. Augsburger Panther
      Budsjett: 28 millioner NOK
    99. EHC München
      Budsjett: 27,5 millioner NOK
    100. SaiPa
      Budsjett: 27,5 millioner NOK
    101. České Budějovice
      Budsjett: 27 millioner NOK
    102. Karlovy Vary
      Budsjett: 26,1 millioner NOK
    103. EHC Linz
      Budsjett: 26 millioner NOK
    104. Mechel Chelyabinsk
      Budsjett: 25 millioner NOK
    105. Malmö
      Budsjett: 25 millioner NOK
    106. Sarov
      Budsjett: 24 millioner NOK
    107. Medvescak Zagreb
      Budsjett: 23,5 millioner NOK
    108. Kosice
      Budsjett: 23,5 millioner NOK
    109. Stavanger Oilers
      Budsjett: 23 millioner NOK
    110. Mladá Boleslav
      Budsjett: 22,3 millioner NOK
    111. Yuzhny Ural Orsk
      Budsjett: 22 millioner NOK
    112. Plzeň
      Budsjett: 21,8 millioner NOK
    113. Litvínov
      Budsjett: 21,5 millioner NOK
    114. Sparta Sarpsborg
      Budsjett: 20 millioner NOK
    115. Villacher SV
      Budsjett: 19,5 millioner NOK
    116. Langenthal
      Budsjett: 19,5 millioner NOK
    117. Basel
      Budsjett: 19 millioner NOK
    118. Kristall Saratov
      Budsjett: 18,9 millioner NOK
    119. La Chaux-de-Fonds
      Budsjett: 18,5 millioner NOK
    120. Vítkovice
      Budsjett: 18,4 millioner NOK
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    I guess those numbers are two years old (Khimik on the list), but proportions still seems right.

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    Are we talking salary-budget, or operating-budget as a whole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElQuapo View Post
    Are we talking salary-budget, or operating-budget as a whole?
    Is there a point of separating those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz View Post
    I guess those numbers are two years old (Khimik on the list), but proportions still seems right.
    But there is LEV so it can't be 2 years old.

    Also kinda weird seeing clubs that have folded (Khimik, Krilya) on the list but not seeing Avtomobilist. And Barys numbers seem weird to me. I guess the list could be somewhat accurate but it's hard to judge without knowing where these numbers come from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz View Post
    Is there a point of separating those?
    For example, if we were to compare towards the NHL, the salary cap there is currently 65 million dollars.

    Salavat has a budget of 65 million dollars according to the chart. If this is only the salary budget, then the club actually has as much money for salaries as any NHL club. But if it is also for running the arena, for salaries for coaches, for equipment, for flight tickets etc. etc., then it is something entirely different.

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    That's alot of money Salavat have to play with... Which company funds UFA then? Just was looking but cound't find any info on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazzw87 View Post
    That's alot of money Salavat have to play with... Which company funds UFA then? Just was looking but cound't find any info on it
    As weird as it may sound - charity fond Ural. Checking their home page would be a logical step to start with. As far as I understand it's the local government.
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    ElQuapo: I thought that budsjett meant the same in both Norwegian and Danish?

    I would make a 100% guess that it's the total budget of the clubs. The Swedish and Finnish clubs seems to be accurate for this season 2011/12. Also Malmö from Allsvenskan. Also 25 million NOK in playerbudget for Malmö would be ridiculous. That would be a lot for just SEL teams to put on players.

    The KHL clubs seems to be a mix from the past years.

    NLA clubs seems to be accurate also, but I only found a few of them, so it could also be a mix, not entirely sure. Bern could be seen on the NLA website if I remember correctly, perhaps a few more.

    So I suppose the list should be somewhat accurate. Perhaps that some KHL teams has even larger budgets now. I don't think there would be much difference in the other leagues if it's not from this season.

    I also found a complete list of almost all teams on the same forum, I will edit it into € figures and post it here also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itry View Post
    As weird as it may sound - charity fond Ural. Checking their home page would be a logical step to start with. As far as I understand it's the local government.
    Thanks itry. I have no idea why I didn't check their site, it's Wikipedia's fault, instantly went reading around on there instead! Just read about the fund, and I like what they have set up! I prefer the way KHL/Russian teams do funding/financing. It takes the stress away from the team having to find the funds and just concentrate on playing! Only the rest of the world seems to think it's all Mafia money or run by Bears or whatever they make up next.

    Salavat have an impressive record v other nation teams too so I guess the money they have is working out, aswell as their nice arena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz View Post
    Is there a point of separating those?
    Definitely, as it could skew the meanings greatly.
    For example, if you look at Davos vs Spartak (which are 17 and 18 respectively with 127.5 and 125 million NOK) the difference is huge.
    Davos' travel budget is a small fraction of Spartak's because of the total travel distances of the two clubs (Spartak travels many times the distance of Davos). If you're looking at the overall budgets, then Spartak would necessarily spend a much larger portion of that money on travel costs than Davos, leaving Davos with a much larger remaining budget for player salaries (therefore would, one could argue, give them a better chance of icing a stronger team).
    Ditto VHL clubs vs EBEL clubs (i.e. VMF St Petersburg vs Red Bull Salzburg, both with 55mil NOK)

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    Old numbers.

    according to this http://allhockey.ru/articles/111345/, last season Salavat Yulaev had operating budget of 96 million dollars, SKA probably the same or even more. This year SYU has lower budget but still...

    I'm more interested in what teams actually earn. SYU, it is said, EARNED 5 million dollars last year.... while they spent 100 million. Maybe (I presume) Dinamo Rīga makes more of its money though as they don't own arena, a lot of the income from tickets go to Arena Riga- in any case Minsk might earn more now or SKA with bigger arenas and better marketing, though that's how it is with big clubs.


    Of course these 100 million is operating income for all the system- for farm club in VHL, I presume at least some portion, to youth team(s) in MHL, youth teams from the smallest kids to U18... travel expenses, ice for all their teams and practices etc.


    I don't know if these 100 million are realistic but in case of SKA Saint Petersburg, if we look at team's roster than almost all guys there should receive 1 millon a year by Russian standards and I presume many make, of course, more....
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    What about total leagues budgets (not team budgets). and all of them is it possible to estimate even lower leagues :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalinka View Post
    What about total leagues budgets (not team budgets). and all of them is it possible to estimate even lower leagues :-)
    Here perhaps. I put in average budget on each league and listed them.

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