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    Olympics 32 nations formally apply for the 2014 Olympic men's tournament, 24 for the womens

    Here's an article about the 32 teams that applied for the Sochi Olympics, via Puck Daddy
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    Interesting to see Bosnia in there. Can any IIHF nation take part in qualification?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey_Algeria View Post
    Interesting to see Bosnia in there. Can any IIHF nation take part in qualification?
    Very interesting indeed. This will be first reunion and first competition for Bosnian national team since 2008.
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    List of nations applying

    Mens:

    1. *Russia
    2. *Finland
    3. *Sweden
    4. *Canada
    5. *Czech Republic
    6. *USA
    7. *Switzerland
    8. *Germany
    9. *Norway

    10. Slovakia
    11. Belarus
    12. Latvia
    13. Denmark
    14. France
    15. Austria
    16. Kazakhstan
    17. Italy
    18. Slovenia
    19. Ukraine
    20. Hungary
    21. Great Britain
    22. Japan
    23. Poland
    24. Lithuania
    25. Croatia
    26. Romania
    27. Spain
    28. Serbia
    29. South Korea
    30. Mexico
    31. Israel
    32. Bosnia-Herzegovina

    Womens:

    1. *USA
    2. *Canada
    3. *Finland
    4. *Sweden
    5. *Russia
    6. *Switzerland

    7. Kazakhstan
    8. Slovakia
    9. China
    10. Germany
    11. Japan
    12. Norway
    13. Latvia
    14. Czech Repulbic
    15. Austria
    16. France
    17. Italy
    18. Great Britain
    19. Slovenia
    20. Denmark
    21. Hungary
    22. South Korea
    23. Poland
    24. Spain

    * = Currently in qualified position for the 2014 Olympic games
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    Do the nations who are applying for qualifying get any funding from their national Olympic Federations? Or is it solely up to the National Ice Hockey Federation? (or a do different countries do it differently?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    * = Automatically Qualify for the 2014 Olympics
    Actually the qualifications are to be made after 2012 rankings, which means the results of this year's IHWC weigh in.

    Which begs a question, since I'm bit too lazy at the moment to do the math myself - how many of those top countries are already "safe" and qualified as is? Well, there is one, Russia, since they're the hosts. But can number two, Finland, still slink outside top-9 for example in the strange (and likely purely hypothetical) case they happen to relegate down to lower division this year? What about Sweden, Canada, Czech Republic? Where does the line go for not being able to go lower than nine after this year's tournament?
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    I'm very unpleasantly surprised to see The Netherlands missing from both lists.

    I'm trying to figure out why we didn't apply.
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    Its annoying to see Australia isn't there too. Australia could jump a few places in the world ranking if they just participated in the qualification tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laho View Post
    Actually the qualifications are to be made after 2012 rankings, which means the results of this year's IHWC weigh in.

    Which begs a question, since I'm bit too lazy at the moment to do the math myself - how many of those top countries are already "safe" and qualified as is? Well, there is one, Russia, since they're the hosts. But can number two, Finland, still slink outside top-9 for example in the strange (and likely purely hypothetical) case they happen to relegate down to lower division this year? What about Sweden, Canada, Czech Republic? Where does the line go for not being able to go lower than nine after this year's tournament?
    I'll give it a go :-)

    Please let me know if I have gotten the system totally wrong :-)

    Current points (top 9):
    Russia - 3650
    Finland - 3630
    Sweden - 3630
    Canada - 3595
    Czech Republic - 3570
    United States - 3340
    Switzerland - 3240
    Germany - 3190
    Norway - 3175

    If placed 16th at the 2012 IHWC (current top 9):
    Russia - 820 + (0,75x1100) + (0,50x1160) + (0,50x1040) + (0,25x1200) = 3045
    Sweden - 820 + (0,75x1160) + (0,50x1120) + (0,25x1060) + (0,25x1120) = 2795
    Finland - 820 + (0,75x1200) + (0,50x1040) + (0,25x1120) + (0,25x1060) = 2785
    Czech Republic - 820 + (0,75x1120) + (0,50x1200) + (0,25x1020) + (0,25x1040) = 2775
    Canada - 820 + (0,75x1060) + (0,50x1020) + (0,25x1200) + (0,25x1160) = 2715
    United States - 820 + (0,75x1000) + (0,50x880) + (0,25x1160) + (0,25x1100) = 2575
    Germany - 820 + (0,75x1020) + (0,50x1100) + (0,25x920) + (0,25x840) = 2575
    Switzerland - 820 + (0,75x960) + (0,50x1060) + (0,25x1000) + (0,25x960) = 2560
    Norway - 820 + (0,75x1040) + (0,50x960) + (0,25x940) + (0,25x920) = 2545

    Maximum amount of points for teams outside current top 9:
    Slovakia : 1200 + (0,75x940) + (0,50x900) + (0,25x1100) + (0,25x940) = 2865
    Denmark : 1200 + (0,75x920) + (0,50x1000) + (0,25x840) + (0,25x880) = 2820
    Belarus : 1200 + (0,75x860) + (0,50x940) + (0,25x960) + (0,25x1000) = 2805
    Latvia : 1200 + (0,75x880) + (0,50x920) + (0,25x900) + (0,25x1020) = 2800
    France : 1200 + (0,75x900) + (0,50x860) + (0,25x740) + (0,25x900) = 2715

    Can these teams move out of the current top 9?
    Russia : No, none of the teams outside the current top 9 can reach 3045 points.
    Sweden : Yes, but not if Sweden finishes at least 12th
    Finland : Yes, but not if Finland finishes at least 11th
    Czech Republic : Yes, but not if Czech Republic finishes at least 11th
    Canada : Yes, but not if Canada finishes at least 8th

    Teams were the calculation gets a bit tricky, and where other nations placement will matter at great deal more:
    United States : Finishing at least 3rd will put the United States above 2865 points.
    Germany : Finishing at least 3rd will put Germany above 2865 points.
    Switzerland : Finishing at least 2nd will put Switzerland above 2865 points.
    Norway : Finishing at least 2nd will put Norway above 2865 points.

    But that being said, these last teams will not have to finish this high, as even if they do, teams currently above them will finish lower etc. It's pretty complicated. I can't even figure it out entirely myself - I am not even sure if the above is entirely correct, but hope this helps a bit :-)

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    My question is : what could be the main reasons for a nation to not send its team for olympics if they send other athletes anyway ?
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    Damn, how did Norway sneeked in already? :D Anyway I can already see last 3 qualification tournaments being hosted by Riga, Bratislava and Minsk and thus all three home teams going to Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz View Post
    Damn, how did Norway sneeked in already? :D Anyway I can already see last 3 qualification tournaments being hosted by Riga, Bratislava and Minsk and thus all three home teams going to Sochi.
    Slovakia for example only needs 60 more points than Norway, to take their spot among the top 9. If they for example make it to the semi-finals, and Norway gets placed 7th or below, then Slovakia will overtake Norway.

    The difference between Denmark and Norway is 105 points. Denmark would for example overtake Norway by placing 9th while Norway places 15th or below.

    Both of these scenarios are, IMHO, not entirely unrealistic depending on which NHL players the nations bring to the tournament. Slovakia making the semi-finals is not out of the question, and Norway can, depending the day, lose against all of Latvia, Denmark and Italy.

    Belarus and Norway are devided by 120 points, which is more unlikely. Even if Norway finish last, Belarus would have to make it to the quarterfinals.

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    Well, that was quick: http://www.ijshockey.com/item/4006/o...h-richting-okt

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    When is the deadline to apply?

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    Strictly speaking, it is 33 nations. China, as somewhat expected, are going to focus on the women's side and did not (yet) enter a men's side into the fray.

    Quote Originally Posted by P&H View Post
    My question is : what could be the main reasons for a nation to not send its team for olympics if they send other athletes anyway ?
    Funding and National Olympic Committee standards.

    Funding is the obvious part and was part of the reason Great Britain did not try to qualify in 2006. Graham can correct me but at the time the British would have been the 25th seed, I believe. He knows more details about what went into that decision and its effects on the Ice Hockey UK program later on.

    For the Salt Lake games, the Norwegian bobsleigh program did enough to qualify one sled in the men's competitons by FIBT standards (which at the time were quite low to maximise competitor participation) but did not have the required top 10 or 15 result in a World Cup race by Norweigan NOC qualification rules until one of the final races of the year. For ice hockey, China trying to qualify a women's team instead of a men's could be some sort of prioritizing along those same lines. The men are 39th in the IIHF World Rankings, a mere thirty places lower than the women's team.
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    China's women's team's chance is 50-50 in my mind... their program has fallen a LONG way in just a few years.
    As for Slovakia's men's team, I'm not going to give them a lock in a qualification tournament. Without their top guns, it's far from impossible for a nation like Austria, France or Kazakhstan to pull an upset in a short qualification tournament.
    Belarus and Latvia would be even less certain, as Denmark/France/Kazakhstan are always capable of an upset or two.
    Slovakia wants to lock its spot up it had better show up with a strong effort at this year's Worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    China's women's team's chance is 50-50 in my mind... their program has fallen a LONG way in just a few years.
    As for Slovakia's men's team, I'm not going to give them a lock in a qualification tournament. Without their top guns, it's far from impossible for a nation like Austria, France or Kazakhstan to pull an upset in a short qualification tournament.
    Belarus and Latvia would be even less certain, as the next couple nations are always capable of an upset or two.
    Slovakia wants to lock its spot up it had better show up with a strong effort at this year's Worlds.
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    Thanks for the correction Laho!

    Quote Originally Posted by Salavat View Post
    Its annoying to see Australia isn't there too. Australia could jump a few places in the world ranking if they just participated in the qualification tournament.
    Actually, my question partly had Australia in mind. Did they pitch to their NOC (National Olympic Committee) and were shot down?

    I would have thought given funding issues many of the lower ranked nations have, they could have utilized extra money for more competition and experience for their players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElQuapo View Post
    I'll give it a go :-)

    Please let me know if I have gotten the system totally wrong :-)
    By the looks of things, you DID skewer it up pretty badly. You gave Vancouver 2010 a 25% weigh-in in the next rankings while in reality it deserves 50%, since it was two years ago.

    Funny, you did get it right with Russia (who have automatic place as hosts), but messed it up for every subsequent country. Finland, for example would gain with a 16th place finish 820 + (900 (0,75x1200) + 520 (0,50x1040) + 560 (0,50x1120) + 265 (0,25x1060) = 2245) = 3065 points.

    Current 10th ranked Slovakia would be 705 + 450 + 550 + 235 = 1940 with a championship +1200 that would be 3140.

    Finland needs an 80-point edge not to slink outside top-9 in this case, which means 12th (900 points) position will do for them, not 11th.

    Norway's points without this year's results are 780 + 480 + 470 + 230 = 1960, meaning they'll need 1180 points to get above 3140, in other words a championship, making this equation impossible to happen.

    It's probably best if I just do the math for 2012 pre-tournament rankings and list 'em here...

    1. Finland - 2245
    2. Sweden - 2240
    3. Russia - 2225
    4. Czech Republic - 2210
    5. Canada - 2195
    6. USA - 2045
    7. Switzerland - 1990
    8. Germany - 1985
    9. Norway - 1960
    10. Slovakia 1940

    EDIT: The following section is rewritten due to a serious error of logic that didn't take into account the fact that countries can't have the same amount of points added from a single tournament.

    In order to set it up right, we need to calculate the highest amount of points a possible tenth-place finisher can gain in the 2012 rankings. This happens by taking the top-10 in pre-tournament rankings and assuming they finish in reverse order from that (10th finish 1st, 9th finish 2nd, 1st finish 10th, 2nd finish 9th etcetera). So from there, we get the following "ranking".

    1. Canada - 3235
    2. Czech Rep 3230
    3. Russia - 3225
    4. Sweden - 3200
    5. Finland - 3185
    6. Slovakia - 3140
    7. Norway - 3120
    8. USA - 3105
    9. Germany - 3105
    10. Switzerland - 3090

    In the case of Slovakian championship, there are five countries that can retain their place above Slovakia in the scenario described above. Incidentally, these are also the only five countries that can qualify directly by finishing OUTSIDE of it, because no 10th-place finisher can have more points than 3090. Less can and WILL be enough for a top-9 ranking once the tournament is over, but 3095 - that's the sweet spot. The second you guarantee a finishing position that grants you that minimum amount of those points, you're guaranteed a top-9 berth and a place in the Olympics.

    For Finland and Sweden, this position is 14th.
    For Russia it's 13th.
    For Czech Republic and Canada, it's 12th.
    For USA, it would be 5th, OR finishing lower in the top-10 with one of Germany, Switzerland, Norway and Slovakia out of it.
    For Switzerland and Germany, it would be Bronze Medal OR finishing lower in the top-10 with either Norway or Slovakia out of it.
    Norway must make it to the final OR finish in the top-10 with Slovakia behind one position
    Slovakia needs to make it to the final OR reach the semis with Norway not in there OR finish in the top-10 two positions above Norway.

    The rest of the countries are pretty much irrelevant. Current 11th berth holder, Belarus, leaves with 1845 base, meaning winning the title would bring 'em up to 3045, which is 20 points LESS than what pre-tournament leader Finland would gain with a 16th place finish.

    This doesn't mean they don't have a chance to qualify directly at all of course, because in reality the top dogs will once again hog most of the top positions, causing very little shift in the rankings. This'll naturally make every country in the pre-tournament top-5 a technical qualifier as is already, since for them to fail the bid in reality would require all of the rest of them falling outside of semis... and we pretty much know already that it just won't happen.
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    I just read that Bosnian application for te Olympics is denied by IOC because Bosnia and Herzegovina has too bad ranking on IIHF list - last place. Is that possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    I just read that Bosnian application for te Olympics is denied by IOC because Bosnia and Herzegovina has too bad ranking on IIHF list - last place. Is that possible?
    Doesn't sound like anything that's in the rules. All that is stated is that countries ranked 1-9 in 2012 rankings will have an automatic berth, 10-18 have a berth in main qualification tournaments and countries ranked 18-30 will go through the pre-qualification stage with three advancing to actual.

    It is also mentioned that if more bids than 30 are in, there will be an additional qualification round where one will advance to pre-qualification, played between 30th and the applicants outside it. I've seen it say nowhere though that countries with too low a ranking will disqualify.

    Technically the qualification should begin then by Mexico, Israel and Bosnia and Herzegovina first sorting it out who gets the final place in pre-qualification and then move on from there as stated in the format.

    Unless, well, they simply decided having B&H in is not worth it, made up some technical loophole to exclude them and just have Mexico and Israel duke it out in a game.
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    If The Netherlands do apply (and they intend to do so) South Korea might be in a prequalifier as well.
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    Is it the IOC that denied BIH's application, or the Bosnian Olympic committee?
    Also, I'm pretty sure South Korea will skip over Serbia after this year's Worlds to ensure they're in at least the pre-qual. This just due to what division each is playing in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laho View Post
    Doesn't sound like anything that's in the rules. All that is stated is that countries ranked 1-9 in 2012 rankings will have an automatic berth, 10-18 have a berth in main qualification tournaments and countries ranked 18-30 will go through the pre-qualification stage with three advancing to actual.

    It is also mentioned that if more bids than 30 are in, there will be an additional qualification round where one will advance to pre-qualification, played between 30th and the applicants outside it. I've seen it say nowhere though that countries with too low a ranking will disqualify.
    ...
    Unless, well, they simply decided having B&H in is not worth it, made up some technical loophole to exclude them and just have Mexico and Israel duke it out in a game.
    It didn't seem to bother them in 2009 when Bulgaria didn't even have a women's world ranking.

    I suppose it also comes down to who pulled the plug as Steigs asked. It wouldn't surprise me if the IOC axed BiH considering how exclusionary their events are getting now that they don't even want weak competitors in qualification tournaments.
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    Accordinf to B&H newspapers it was IOC who denied their application because of their bad ranking in IIHF point list. They are last nation on that list which doesn't come as a surprise since they last time played on WC in any category in 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    Accordinf to B&H newspapers it was IOC who denied their application because of their bad ranking in IIHF point list. They are last nation on that list which doesn't come as a surprise since they last time played on WC in any category in 2008.
    And does the IOC actually knows the facts behind that ranking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laho View Post
    By the looks of things, you DID skewer it up pretty badly. You gave Vancouver 2010 a 25% weigh-in in the next rankings while in reality it deserves 50%, since it was two years ago.
    Doh, you are right, stupid copy-paste error

    Thanks for fixing it :-)

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    Very poor decision by the IOC, everyone should be given a chance to qualify for the olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey_Algeria View Post
    Very poor decision by the IOC, everyone should be given a chance to qualify for the olympics.
    I agree with you in principle, Hockey_Algeria. however, the lower countries may get blown out in the process, ala the Bulgarian women's team, and the IOC seems to want to avoid that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    I agree with you in principle, Hockey_Algeria. however, the lower countries may get blown out in the process, ala the Bulgarian women's team, and the IOC seems to want to avoid that.
    Isn't that the entire point of the qualification though, so you don't have an entry that is significantly weaker and may not deserve a place to begin with?

    Of the people that watch the Olympics, what percentage of them follow the qualification process for the event? It has to be a low percentage. The qualifications are not even under IOC jurisdiction. Do they really think Bosnia-Herzegovina will upset their way into the Olympics if they aren't good enough to play in a pre-qualification tournament?
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    Every country which wants to be part of Olympics qualification must be in it no mather what their strength is. BTW, isn't the Olympics moto - it's important to participate, not to win?
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    Feel so bad for Bosnia, they made some really nice progress and got their league going again, and then first they get the problem with their rink earlier this month and now this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laho View Post
    9. Norway - 1980
    10. Slovakia 1935
    Norway should be 1960 (230 + 470 + 480 + 780), Slovakia 1940 (235 + 550 + 450 + 705).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laho View Post
    8. Germany - 1985
    Had Germany not hosted the 2010 World Championships, they would have been relegated from the previous year. At best they would be going into this year's Worlds with 150 fewer points, in 13th place rather than 8th. 115 points behind the 9th place team (Slovakia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laho View Post

    Canada: 2195 base, need 940, 10th place finish.
    For Canada to fall to 10th, here's what has to happen:
    -If Canada finishes 16th, Slovakia has to finish at least 4th, either Germany or Norway makes the SF with the other finishing 5th or 6th, Switzerland is top 6 & the US is at least 8th. (providing none of Denmark, Belarus or Latvia win the Gold);
    -If Canada finishes 15th, Slovakia has to finish at least 4th, either Germany or Norway makes the SF with the other finishing 5th, Switzerland is top 4 & the US is at least 8th. (providing neither Belarus or Latvia win the Gold);
    -If Canada finishes 14th, Slovakia, Switzerland, Germany, Norway have to make the SF (with Slovakia winning a medal) & the US 5th, 6th or 7th;
    -If Canada finishes 13th, Slovakia, Switzerland, Germany, Norway have to make the SF (with Slovakia in the Final) & the US 5th or 6th;
    -If Canada finishes 12th they qualify for the Olympics

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekayne View Post
    Norway should be 1960 (230 + 470 + 480 + 780), Slovakia 1940 (235 + 550 + 450 + 705).
    Looks like it. Lots of numbers, lots of different equations, plus one human who's certainly not perfect working on it more often than not equals an error or two. Thanks. Edited the original accordingly.
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    Hockey Canada will announce today that Steve Yzerman will be Director for Canada's entry at the 2014 games as he was in 2010. This is despite the fact that the NHL has yet to committ its players. I guess if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

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    Olympic men’s ice hockey tournament in Sochi 2014

    Participants: Nations ranked 1-9 according to the 2012 IIHF Men’s World Ranking plus three qualifiers.

    Seeding:
    Group A: 1, 6, 7, 12
    Group B: 2, 5, 8, 11
    Group C: 3, 4, 9, 10

    The eight teams with the best records (the best two teams of each group and the two teams ranked third with the best record) advance to the quarter-finals.

    Final Olympic Qualification (3 tournaments, 7-10 February 2013)

    Nations ranked 10-18 plus the three winners from the Olympic Pre-Qualification.

    Olympic Pre-Qualification (3 tournaments, 8-11 November 2012)

    Nations ranked 19-27 plus qualifiers from any preliminary qualification required or ranked nations 28 and higher.


    Any News on the Pre-Qualification tournament???

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    according to wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc..._qualification

    Olympic pre-qualification tournaments

    Group A
    1. Hungary
    2. Lithuania
    3. Romania
    4. 30th or qualifier

    Group B
    1. Ukraine
    2. Poland
    3. South Korea
    4. Serbia

    Group A
    1. Great Britain
    2. Japan
    3. Croatia
    4. Spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirlovic Zagora View Post
    according to wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc..._qualification

    Olympic pre-qualification tournaments

    Group A
    1. Hungary
    2. Lithuania
    3. Romania
    4. 30th or qualifier

    Group B
    1. Ukraine
    2. Poland
    3. South Korea
    4. Serbia

    Group A
    1. Great Britain
    2. Japan
    3. Croatia
    4. Spain
    I think for the most part, it looks to be fairly even on paper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    I think for the most part, it looks to be fairly even on paper
    Wouldn't agree.

    Group A looks a walk over. Hungary were bronze medallists in Div 1A. Romania and Lithuania were poor in Div 1B.

    Group B is the group of death. South Korea, Ukraine or Poland could all easily qualify from this group.

    Group C is going to be a tough fight between Great Britain and Japan. Either of those two teams can qualify from this group.

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    So are Estonia and the Netherlands too late to register now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zatch View Post
    So are Estonia and the Netherlands too late to register now?
    As I've heard, The Netherlands have registered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zatch View Post
    So are Estonia and the Netherlands too late to register now?
    Can register up to the AGM at the end of the elite WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Wouldn't agree.

    Group A looks a walk over. Hungary were bronze medallists in Div 1A. Romania and Lithuania were poor in Div 1B.

    Group B is the group of death. South Korea, Ukraine or Poland could all easily qualify from this group.

    Group C is going to be a tough fight between Great Britain and Japan. Either of those two teams can qualify from this group.

    Graham.
    Yeah, I agree with you. However, I meant what I said in the sense that while there may be some uneven games, no one team would be the powerhouse of the groups, if that makes any sense.
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    ok, any news on the preliminary qualification, for teams like mexico and Israel??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hckeyguy25 View Post
    ok, any news on the preliminary qualification, for teams like mexico and Israel??
    Don't think you'll hear anything until the AGM now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Don't think you'll hear anything until the AGM now.

    Graham.
    Ok. Thanks Graham.

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    IIHF updated their Olympic page. Changes from the original list:

    IN
    25. Estonia
    26. Netherlands

    21. Dutch women
    22. Croatian women

    OUT
    Bosnia & Herzegovina

    As Graham mentioned, there is nothing completely official until the AGM.
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    I guess this page needs some serious updating, then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc..._qualification
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