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    2012 IIHF World Div.III Championship - Erzurum, Turkey; 15th-21st.Apr

    DPR Korea
    Greece
    Ireland
    Luxembourg
    Mongolia
    Turkey

    GSIM Ice Arena, capacity: 3,000


    Tournament fixtures
    DateHome TeamAway TeamTimeVenue
    15/4 Greece Turkey 13:00 GSIM Ice Arena
    15/4 Luxembourg Ireland 17:00GSIM Ice Arena
    15/4 Mongolia DPR Korea 21:00GSIM Ice Arena
    16/4 Ireland Greece 13:00GSIM Ice Arena
    16/4 DPR Korea Luxembourg 17:00GSIM Ice Arena
    16/4 Turkey Mongolia 21:00 GSIM Ice Arena
    18/4 DPR Korea Greece 13.00GSIM Ice Arena
    18/4 Ireland Turkey 17.00GSIM Ice Arena
    18/4 Mongolia Luxembourg 21.00GSIM Ice Arena
    19/4 Turkey DPR Korea 13.00GSIM Ice Arena
    19/4 Luxembourg Greece 17.00GSIM Ice Arena
    19/4 Ireland Mongolia 21.00GSIM Ice Arena
    21/4 Greece Mongolia 13.00GSIM Ice Arena
    21/4 Turkey Luxembourg 17.00GSIM Ice Arena
    21/4 DPR Korea Ireland 21.00GSIM Ice Arena

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    Turkey wins by a mile!!

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    probably dpr korea

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    Ireland and Greece still allowed to compete with no league?

    Ashame UAE and Kuwait arent involved.

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    DPR Korea will obliterate the competition.

    Greece, with the apparent lack of competition, is probably on probation and will likely get yanked out of competition next year if no progress is made.
    Ireland has been said to be on notice that if they can't find a rink and put a league together for the 2012/13 season that they will not be allowed to compete in 2013. Whether this is true or not, I have not seen confirmed by IIHF sources.
    UAE could probably have joined the competition if they wanted, but this year they seemed content to play the CCoA.

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    Any news of team composition yet ?

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    Wasn't there a Greek league played this season?

    In any event, I would like to see the Irish or the Greeks win, but I believe that North Korea will take it.

    The big question is whether Mongolia will even show up.

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    I'm hoping that with just five days to go to the start, the lack of any news about teams pulling out is good news. I'll be surprised and delighted if all six show up. I felt that only Turkey and Luxembourg were sure to play and at least two of the others wouldn't make it.
    Fingers crossed.

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    Isn´t it start of all games at 12, 16 and 20h?
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    Greek league will be played during Autumn.
    It is still big question if Greek team will participate (yes, a week before start...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 27133 View Post
    Greek league will be played during Autumn.
    It is still big question if Greek team will participate (yes, a week before start...)
    There is no question.... They will be there!

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    Entry lists for Ireland and Luxembourg now shown on the IIHF website. That's two at least, plus Greece and Turkey also confirmed. Only DPR Korea and Mongolia with question marks.

    Geoff

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    Greece entry list also now listed by IIHF. Includes Kalyvas x 2.

    Geoff
    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    Entry lists for Ireland and Luxembourg now shown on the IIHF website. That's two at least, plus Greece and Turkey also confirmed. Only DPR Korea and Mongolia with question marks.

    Geoff

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    going to be a tough tournament for the lads this year although i know everyone who is selected will represent the country with great pride the way they have always done in past tournaments and hopefully with other teams underestimating us we can cause a shock or two this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoNsToUr View Post
    i know everyone who is selected will represent the country with great pride the way they have always done in past tournaments
    Based on a major portion of the team being Northern Irish and the IIHA making sure players from this region are no longer considered Irish, this quote needs to be reconsidered. It used to be a proud Team Ireland, and it was something special, but due to the IIHA it is a Team ROI with an identity crisis.

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    Every teams entry list is up now except for Mongolia. Hopefully this isn't a sign of Mongolia possibly not showing up, considering there is less than 3 days to the start of the competition.
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    We can always hope !!

    Three groups starting on Sunday and 17 of the 18 teams have had their Entry Lists loaded. Mongolia is the only one missing .....

    Geoff
    Quote Originally Posted by usausa View Post
    Every teams entry list is up now except for Mongolia. Hopefully this isn't a sign of Mongolia possibly not showing up, considering there is less than 3 days to the start of the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    We can always hope !!

    Three groups starting on Sunday and 17 of the 18 teams have had their Entry Lists loaded. Mongolia is the only one missing .....

    Geoff
    Mongolia`s entry list is loaded!

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    Yippeee .....

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    what a dream if the div3 would be avaleble for live streaming like div2 in island , wow i would whach every game. Please lookout if you find somthing like that :-) then please post it :-)

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    guys, what do u think about the quality of the teams?
    Is greece again as bad as last year?

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    A young team but with some experience. 10 of the squad were at the AWG last year and six played in the IHWC in 2008.

    I'm guessing they finish ;

    DPR Korea
    Turkey
    Luxembourg
    Ireland
    Greece
    Mongolia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murach86 View Post
    Mongolia`s entry list is loaded!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    A young team but with some experience. 10 of the squad were at the AWG last year and six played in the IHWC in 2008.

    I'm guessing they finish ;

    DPR Korea
    Turkey
    Luxembourg
    Ireland
    Greece
    Mongolia

    Geoff
    which team do u mean geoff (young team..)?

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    Mongolia has a young team pretty much every time. This time out though they look to have a lot more experience from past years, plus some of their top players from past years are back (that might have missed the last one or two tournaments).

    Greece has a much stronger roster than last year and will contend for a medal IMO.

    Luxembourg is missing some of their past years' top players, but still have some solid representation.

    I see the standings finishing as follows:

    1. DPR Korea
    2. Turkey
    3. Greece
    4. Luxembourg
    5. Ireland
    6. Mongolia

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    Mongolia.

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    what do u think about tomorrows games.

    btw...greece vs turkey..will turkey win by double digit or can greece keep the game closer than last year?

    will north korea have an easy win over Mongolia..last year they have won 22:1...what about this year...?

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    Greece has a lot stronger team this year. So could be close.
    My very unqualified guess would be:

    1. DPR Korea
    2. Turkey
    3. Luxembourg
    4. Greece
    5. Ireland
    6. Mongolia
    Last edited by WHawks; 14-04-2012 at 23:13.

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    Do u really think, that ireland will be ranked behind Luxemburg (as u have said - LUX is missing some players and Ireland played DIV 2 last year)?

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    North Korea DPR Korea final roster

    Goalkeepers
    Kun Hyok Pak (Taesongsan)
    Kuk Chol Pak (Taesongsan)

    Defenders
    Jin Hyok Kim (Jangjasan)
    Pong II Ri (Taesongsan)
    Song Min Ku (Pyongyangcholdo)
    Nam Hyok Kim (Pyongyangcholdo)
    Chol Min Ri (Taesongsan)
    Song Chol Jon (Taesongsan)
    Kum Song Ri (Taesongsan)

    Forwards
    Song Jin Pak (Susan)
    Chol Hwa Pak (Susan)
    Sung CHol Om (Kimchaek)
    Chol Bom Kim (Taesongsan)
    Se Gwang Ri (Taesongsan)
    Sung Hyok Ju (Pyongyanghcholdo)
    Kwang Ho Kim (Pyongyangcholdo)
    Myong Chol Kim (Pyongyangcholdo)
    Ju Hyok Kim (Taesongsan)
    Chung Rim Hong (Taesongsan)
    Song Iil Jong (Pyongyangcholdo)

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    Greece Greece final roster

    Goalkeepers
    Georgios Fiotakis (Iptameni Athens)
    Ntalimpor Ploutsis (Iptameni Athens)

    Defenders
    Ionnis Ioannou (Avantes Athens)
    Nikolaos Chatzigiannis (Iptameni Athens)
    Diogenis Souras (Iptameni Athens)
    Loukas Chatzigiannis (Aris Thessaloniki)
    Christos Chasiotis (Avantes Athens)
    Panagiotis Iatridis (Iptameni Athens)
    Nikolaos Papadopoulos (PAOK Thessaloniki)

    Forwards
    Lazaros Efkarpidis (Iptameni Athens)
    Georgios Kouleles (Iptameni Athens)
    Eleftherios Fournogerakis (Mad Cows Athens)
    Iason Pachos (Iptameni Athens)
    Alexandros Valsamas-Rallis (Iptameni Athens)
    Orestis Tilios (Iptameni Athens)
    Dimitrios Malamas (Aris Thessaloniki)
    Ioannis Koufis (Iptameni Athens)
    Themistoklis Lambridis (Iptameni Athens)
    Georgios Kalyvas (Iptameni Athens)
    Dimitrios Kalyvas (Iptameni Athens)

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    Ireland Ireland final roster

    Goalkeepers
    Adam Pepper
    Scott Bickerstaff (Wightlink Tigers)

    Defenders
    Trevor Kennedy (Belfast Spitfires)
    Timothy O'Driscoll
    Niall McEvoy
    Gareth Martin
    Dean Kelly (Dublin Rovers)
    Robert Leckey
    David Morrison (Belfast Giants)
    Adam Patience (Belfast Spitfires)

    Forwards
    Adam Jackson-Wyatt
    Philip Catherwood (Castlereagh Spartans)
    Ross Bickerstaff (Belfast Spitfires)
    Steven Ewen (Northern Ireland Prowlers)
    Stephen Hamill
    Christopher Adams (Belfast Ice Foxes)
    Steven Balmer (Streatham Redskins)
    Conor Redmond (Swindon Wildcats)
    Stephen Adams (Solway Sharks)
    Gareth Roberts (Belfast Giants)

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    my final rankings would be

    1. DPR Korea
    2. Turkey
    3. Ireland
    4. Luxembourg
    5. Greece
    6. Mongolia
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    Luxembourg Luxembourg final roster

    Goalkeepers
    Philippe Lepage (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Gilles Mangen (Montpellier)

    Defenders
    Serge Milano (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Christophe Thiru (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Gilles Biver (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Ronny Scheier (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Philippe Bechtold (Hiversport Huskies)

    Forwards
    Clement Waltener (Hiversport Huskies)
    Bob Schneider (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Ben Houdremont (IHC Beaufort)
    Pit Sinner (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Benny Welter (IHC Beaufort)
    Robert Beran (IHC Beaufort)
    Bob Linster (Hiversport Huskies)
    Patrick Schon (Tornado Luxembourg)
    Claude Mossong (IHC Beaufort)
    Eric Wambach (IHC Beaufort)
    Thierry Beran (IHC Beaufort)
    Sacha Backes (Tornado Luxembourg)

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    Mongolia Mongolia final roster

    Goalkeepers
    Munkhbold Bayarsaikhan (Otgon Od)
    Ulambayar Narmandakh (Zolboot)

    Defenders
    Erkhbayar Altansan (ZandT)
    Batgerel Zorigt (ZandT)
    Och Sukhbaatar (Otgon Od)
    Altanbayar Altankhundaga (Khangarid)
    Od-Erdene Zorigoo (Khangarid)
    Tamir Ganbold (Otgon Od)

    Forwards
    Munkhzaya Enkhtur (Jalam Khar)
    Odsaikhan Tsogtsaihan (baganuur)
    Batzaya Purevdorj (Khangarid)
    Bayarsaikhan Jargalsaikhan (Otgon Od)
    Bayarjargal Enkhjargal (Continental)
    Mishigsuren Namjil (Khangarid)
    Tserenbaljir Baatarkhuu (Khangarid)
    Gan-Ochir Tseveen (ZandT)
    Neguun Ganbat (Otgon Od)

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    Turkey Turkey final roster

    Goalkeepers
    Fikri Atali (Kocaeli Izmit)
    Levent Ozbaydugan (Izmir BB)

    Defenders
    Cafer Abayli (Izmir BB)
    Caner Baykan (Kocaeli Izmit)
    Gurkan Cetinkaya (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)
    Cengiz Akyildiz (Canterbury Red Devils)
    Gokturk Tasdemir (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)
    Galip Hamarat (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)
    Savas Akturk (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)

    Forwards
    Oktay Yavuzarslan (BB Ankara)
    Erdogan Coskun (Izmir BB)
    Serdar Semiz (Izmir BB)
    Dogu Bingol (BB Ankara)
    Batin Kosemen (Kocaeli Izmit)
    Bekir Akgul (BB Ankara)
    Alper Solak (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)
    Gokalp Solak (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)
    Yusuf Halil (Kocaeli Izmit)
    Emrah Ozmen (Baskent Yildizlari Ankara)

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    Mongolia is my upset special to promote!
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    Well, now seeing the final rosters, I'm going to stick with my previous standings. Ireland is lacking a few guys who could have given them an extra leg up (a couple guys who really made a difference in 2007 when I saw them), while Luxembourg still has that big line of Scheier-Beran-Houdremont, as well as a solid second. I think Greece with the Iptameni core will take the bronze and Turkey has the slight advantage for silver.
    Mongolia should have fair results (relative for them) but aren't winning any games here. Against last year's Greek roster they could have had a shot but not this year.

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    Yes, should be some good close games between Luxembourg, Greece and Ireland. Hopefully this is a sign of better things to come for the latter two, who have done amazingly well to get a team together at all. Still can't believe that all six teams have arrived !!

    Geoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    Well, now seeing the final rosters, I'm going to stick with my previous standings. Ireland is lacking a few guys who could have given them an extra leg up (a couple guys who really made a difference in 2007 when I saw them), while Luxembourg still has that big line of Scheier-Beran-Houdremont, as well as a solid second. I think Greece with the Iptameni core will take the bronze and Turkey has the slight advantage for silver.
    Mongolia should have fair results (relative for them) but aren't winning any games here. Against last year's Greek roster they could have had a shot but not this year.

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    what about any live streams ????

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    Day 1-Game 1

    Greece - Turkey 1:6 (1:1, 0:3, 0:2)
    0:1 - 10.47 Serdar Semiz (Cetinkaya) PP1
    1:1 - 12.20 Iason Pachos (Fournogerakis, Valsamas-Rallis)
    1:2 - 27.07 Serdar Semiz(2) (Cetinkaya, Halil)
    1:3 - 32.57 Serdar Semiz(3) (Halil, Ozmen)
    1:4 - 38.18 Alper Solak
    1:5 - 50.11 Serkan Gumus (Halil, Coskun)
    1:6 - 52.47 Alper Solak(2) (Halil, Ozmen) PP1
    PIM: 8x2+1x10 - 10x2 SOG: 26-51 Att: 500
    Goalkeepers: Ntalimpor Ploutsis 45/51 - Levent Ozbaydugan 25/26
    Ref: Dmitry Kravchenko (UKR) Linesmen: James Kavanagh (GBR), Vladislovas Rudzinskas (LTU)
    GRE: Ploutsis Ntalimpor; Tilios Orestis +A, Koufis Ioannis, Lambridis Themistoklis, Kalyvas Georgios +A, Kalyvas Dimitrios +C, Chatzigiannis Nikolaos, Papadopoulos Nikolaso, Pachos Iason, Valsamas-Rallis Alexandros, Malamas Dimitrios, Ioannou Ioannis, Souras Diogenis, Iatridis Diogenis, Iatridis Panagiotis, Kouleles Georgios, Fournogerakis Eleftherios, Chatzigiannis Loukas, Chasiotis Christos, Efkarpidis Lazaros
    TUR: Ozbaydugan Levent; Tasdemir Gokturk +A, Hamarat Galip, Semiz Serdar, Halil Yusuf, Ozmen Emrah +C, Cetinkaya Gurkan, Akturk Savas, Coskun Erdogan +A, Solak Alper, Gumus Serkan, Baykan Caner, Akyildiz Cengiz, Yavuzarslan Oktay, Akgul Bekir, Solak Gakalp, Abayli Cafer, Bingol Dogu, Kosemen Batin

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    A little surprised Lapage isn't starting.. What's this Mangen fella like between the pipes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carnie View Post
    A little surprised Lapage isn't starting.. What's this Mangen fella like between the pipes?
    He made the jump with to Division 1 in France with Montpellier this year, didnt really play much at all but did have better numbers then when Lepage played at that level. From watching his recruitment video, he is a little slow with a weaker glove hand but seems solid enough.

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    So far the resuls aren't too far off what I'd expected to see. That top Luxembourg line is still able to carry the team over an Irish side that hasn't had much positive in their federation this year, and Turkey clearly stronger than a Greek team that is waiting for fall to hit the ice.

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    I think Turkey could pull off a surprise gold at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey_Algeria View Post
    I think Turkey could pull off a surprise gold at home
    That's taking "long-shot" to a whole new level. Last time they played, PRK scored on only 25% of their shots in an easy 8-2 victory. PRK has dominated everyone at the DivIII level, so for them to lose would be one of the biggest upsets of the year at any level.

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    My guess:
    1. DPR Korea
    2. Luxembourg
    3. Turkey
    4. Greece
    5. Ireland
    6. Mongolia

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    I'm eager to see what Mongolia can do after one season absence. It would be great if they earn some points.
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    Day 1-Game 2

    Luxembourg - Ireland 7:2 (4:1, 2:0, 1:1)
    0:1 - 01.59 Adam Jackson-Wyatt (Roberts)
    1:1 - 02.59 Robert Beran (Scheier)
    2:1 - 14.32 Ben Houdremont (R.Beran)
    3:1 - 16.06 Claude Mossong (Backes)
    4:1 - 18.24 Benny Welter (R.Beran) SH1
    5:1 - 27.19 Bob Schneider
    6:1 - 35.55 Bob Schneider(2) (T.Beran)
    6:2 - 55.16 Adam Jackson-Wyatt(2) (Martin) PP1
    7:2 - 56.38 Ben Houdremont(2) (R.Beran)
    PIM: 7x2 - 8x2 SOG: 44-20 Att: 120
    Goalkeepers: Gilles Mangen 18/20 - Adam Pepper 37/44
    Ref: Vedran Krcelic (CRO) Linesmen: Erhan Bulut (TUR), Marko Sakovic (CRO)
    LUX: Mangen Gilles; Scheier Ronny +C, Bechtold Philippe, Houdremont Ben, Welter Benny +A, Beran Robert, Thiry Christophe, Biver Gilles, Schneider Bob, Wambach Eric, Beran Thierry, Milano Serge, Waltener Clement, Schon Patrick +A, Mossong Claude, Backes Sacha, Sinner Pit, Linster Bob
    IRL: Pepper Adam; O'Driscoll Timothy, Martin Gareth +A, Morrison David, Jackson-Wyatt Adam, Roberts Gareth, Kelly Dean +A, Patience Adam, Hamill Stephen +C, Balmer Steven, Adams Stephen, Kennedy Trevor, Leckey Robert, Catherwood Philip, Ewen Steven, Redmond Conor, McEvoy Niall, Bickerstaff Ross, Adams Christopher

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    Day 1-Game 3

    Mongolia - DPR Korea 2:12 (1:2, 1:3, 0:7)
    0:1 - 02.18 Pong II Ri (Ju)
    1:1 - 10.00 Erkhbayar Altansan PP1
    1:2 - 11.11 Chol Min Ri
    1:3 - 21.54 Sung Chol Om (Hong, Pak)
    1:4 - 23.50 Myong Chol Kim (Ku)
    1:5 - 28.49 Sung Hyok Ju (P.I.Ri) SH1
    2:5 - 39.31 Munkhzaya Enkhtur (Jargalsaikhan, Ganbold)
    2:6 - 47.11 Pong Il Ri(2) SH1
    2:7 - 48.49 Song lil Jong (S.G.Ri, J.H.Kim) SH1
    2:8 - 49.47 Chol Min Ri(2) (Ji.H.Kim) PP1
    2:9 - 52.06 Ju Hyok Kim (Ji.H.Kim)
    2:10 - 52.25 Ju Hyok Kim(2) (Jong)
    2:11 - 57.27 Song lil Jong (2) (C.M.Ri, Ju.H.Kim)
    2:12 - 58.18 Chol Bom Kim
    PIM: 3x2+1x10 - 7x2 SOG: 10-48 Att: 22
    Goalkeepers: Munkhbold Bayarsaikhan 35/46 (Ulambayar Narmandakh 1/2) - Kun Hyok Pak 5/6 (Kuk Chol Pak 3/4)
    Ref: Marius Iliescu (ROU) Linesmen: Cemalersin Kaya (TUR), Todor Krastev (BUL)
    MGL: Bayarsaikhan Munkhbold (02.33 Narmandakh Ulambayar); Altankhundaga Altanbayar, Zorigoo Od-Erdene, Purevdorj Batzaya, Namjil Mishigsuren +C, Baatarkhuu Tserenbaljir, Sukhbaatar Och, Ganbold Tamir +A, Ganbat Neguun, Jargalsaikhan Bayarsaikhan, Enkjargal Bayarjargal, Altansan Erkhbayar, Zorigt Batgerel +A, Enkhtur Minkhzaya, Tsogtsaihan Odsaikhan, Tseveen Gan-Ochir
    PRK: Pak Kun Hyok (29.00 Pak Kuk Chol); Kim Jin Hyok, Ri Chol Min +C, Ri Se Gwang, Kim Ju Hyok, Jong Song lil, Ri Pong II, Ku Song Min, Ju Sung Hyok, Kim Myong Chol, Kim Kwang Ho +A, Ri Kum Song +A, Jon Song Chol, Pak Song Jin, Om Sung Chol, Hong Chun Rim, Kim Nam Hyok, Kim Chol Bom, Pak Chol Hwa

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