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    Calendars for the Division 2 Pools have been announced with the season starting on 20.September.

    In Pool A, we have two newcomers, former Ligue Magnus club Villard has moved down and they will start the season on the road in Roanne, they will get their first home match on 4.October against Meudon.
    For the Division 3 Champions Avignon, they get the first weekend off, so they will have to wait until the 4.October when they travel to take on Amnéville, the following weekend they get to host Évry for their first home match.

    Over in Pool B, the Division 3 Vice-Champions get to start out on home ice when they welcome Valence to town. Relegated Annecy will attempt to return to Division 1 when they start out on home ice against Chambéry.

    Pool A: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...64367629_n.jpg
    Pool B: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...32249797_n.jpg

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    Calendar for Coupe de la Ligue has been announced

    http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/...seasonid=12992

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    Before all documents have been submitted to the Federation and clubs have been approved, the preliminary Pools for Division 2...

    Pool A: Toulouse, Meudon, Annecy, Français Volants, Clermont-Ferrand, Valence, Roanne, Strasbourg II, Avignon, approved D3 club
    Pool B: Chambéry, Cergy-Pontoise, Limoges, Amnéville, Villard de Lans, Asnières, ACBB, Evry, Wasquehal, Marseille

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    Ahead of the FFHG General Meeting on 20.June, there are a number of league changes in all 4 leagues this coming season. As reported a few years ago, the FFHG wants to reduce Ligue Magnus down to 12 clubs and play a longer calendar, similar to the NLA with around 50 matches and remove the need of the Coupe de la Ligue. The 16/17 season is the target for the FFHG so this season will see major format changes. Assuming the votes are passed, the formats for every league will look like this...

    Ligue Magnus
    -Clubs 1-8 make the play-offs, all series at Best of 7.
    -Clubs 9-14 will play in Relegation Group, points kept against each other.
    -Clubs ranked 9-11 in Relegation Group stay in Ligue Magnus
    -Club ranked 12 in Relegation Group plays Best of 3 series against D1 Champions
    -Clubs ranked 13-14 in Relegation Group are relegated.

    Division 1
    -Play-offs remain unchanged
    -Clubs ranked 9-12 will play Best of 3 Relegation Series, winners stay, losers "move on"
    -Final club remaining will play Best of 3 Qualification Series against the D2 Champion
    -Clubs 13-14 are relegated.

    Division 2
    -Play-offs remain unchanged
    -Bottom two clubs in each Pool play in Relegation Group
    -Winner of Relegation Group remains in D2
    -Runner-up of Relegation Group plays D3 Champion
    -Clubs ranked 3-4 in Relegation Group are relegated.

    Division 3
    -Clubs ranked 1-2 in each Pool advance to play-offs
    -Winner of Super Final plays 2nd place club in D2 Relegation Group

    Other changes
    -LM, CdlL, D1 and D2 changed to 3pt victories.
    -10 minute over-time introduced to D3

    *Once again, all changes are just proposed for the moment and subject to the final verdict on 20.June

    http://www.passionhockey.com/2015060...a-au-vote.html

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    The General Meeting was held over the weekend, the changes to all four leagues (LM, D1, D2, D3) have been approved as well as a few other changes. To start, the normal 3-2-1-0 point system has been approved in all leagues, the Ligue Magnus will be reduced down to 12 clubs for the next season, and D3 has approved of a 10 minute overtime.

    With Ligue Magnus dropping down to 12 clubs, the Coupe de la Ligue will run for its final season, the Final will once again be at Méribel on 16.February, while the Coupe de France Final is back at Bercy on 3.January.

    Clubs in all four leagues will now also be required to dress 12 JFL players, 11 of them must be players and atleast one goalkeeper per scoresheet.

    Quick look at the changes to all leagues...
    Ligue Magnus
    -Clubs 1-8 make the play-offs, all series at Best of 7.
    -Clubs 9-14 will play in Relegation Group, points kept against each other.
    -Clubs ranked 9-11 in Relegation Group stay in Ligue Magnus
    -Club ranked 12 in Relegation Group plays Best of 3 series against D1 Champions
    -Clubs ranked 13-14 in Relegation Group are relegated.

    Division 1
    -Play-offs remain unchanged
    -Clubs ranked 9-12 will play Best of 3 Relegation Series, winners stay, losers "move on"
    -Final club remaining will play Best of 3 Qualification Series against the D2 Champion
    -Clubs 13-14 are relegated.

    Division 2
    -Play-offs remain unchanged
    -Bottom two clubs in each Pool play in Relegation Group
    -Winner of Relegation Group remains in D2
    -Runner-up of Relegation Group plays D3 Champion
    -Clubs ranked 3-4 in Relegation Group are relegated.

    Division 3
    -Clubs ranked 1-2 in each Pool advance to play-offs
    -Winner of Super Final plays 2nd place club in D2 Relegation Group
    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...du-du-week-end

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    The early reports from the CNSCG are published

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated:
    Validated under conditions:
    Case under study:

    -All applications must be submitted by 30.June

    Division 1
    Validated: Cholet, Neuilly/Marne, Nice
    Validated under conditions: Courbevoie
    Case under study: Anglet, Dunkerque, La Roche/Yon, Mont-Blanc, Reims, Val Vanoise

    Division 2
    Validated: Asnières, Avignon, Cergy-Pontoise, Limoges, Villard, Wasquehal
    Validated under conditions: Chambéry, Valence
    Case under study: Annecy, Évry, Marseille, Meudon, Roanne, Strasbourg II
    Not submitted: ACBB

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...ecisions-cnscg

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    Next report from the CNSCG

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated: Bordeaux, Brest, Chamonix, Gap, Morzine-Avoriaz-Les Gets
    Validated under conditions: Strasbourg
    Case under study: Amiens, Angers, Briançon, Dijon, Grenoble, Lyon, Rouen
    Not validated: Épinal

    Division 1
    Validated: Anglet, Val Vanoise
    Validated under conditions: Caen, La Roche/Yon, Mulhouse, Nantes
    Case under study: Dunkerque, Mont-Blanc, Tours
    Not validated: Reims

    Division 2
    Validated: Amnéville, Clermont-Ferrand, Meudon, Strasbourg II
    Validated under conditions: Annecy, Évry, Marseille, Roanne, Toulouse
    Case under study: Paris

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...s-cnscg-2015-2

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    Calendar for Ligue Magnus has been posted, right now Épinal is not listed on the calendar or who/if their replacement will be.

    Match des Champions will take place on 13.September between Gap v. Rouen

    http://www.liguemagnus.com/files/Lig...gnus_15-16.pdf

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    Couple days late as Ive been away but next report from the CNSCG

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated: Angers, Grenoble, Rouen
    Validated under conditions: Amiens, Briançon, Lyon
    Case under study:
    Not validated: Dijon

    Division 1
    Validated:
    Validated under conditions: Dunkerque
    Case under study:
    Not validated: Tours

    Division 2
    Validated:
    Validated under conditions: Paris
    Case under study:
    Not validated:

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...s-cnscg-2015-3

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    Reims announced a new team, also called Phenix, to replace the folded one after the invalidation decided by Federation. Reims will play in 4th division

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    Nice new logo
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    CNSCG has provided their next report, both Ligue Magnus clubs Dijon and Épinal who were denied validation have both won their appeals.

    CHAR Rouen has been granted the spot from Division 2 after ACBB has decided to withdraw.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...s-cnscg-2015-4

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    What's going on with ACBB? I thought that they are actively looking for players for this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Brunengraber View Post
    What's going on with ACBB? I thought that they are actively looking for players for this season.
    They are, they just choose to return to D3.

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    do they still have import spot left for a forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player Placement Intl. View Post
    do they still have import spot left for a forward?
    I dont know, you have to ask them.

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    Nice announce their new uniforms



    Link includes their goalkeeping uniforms along with socks and pants: http://news.nicehockey.fr/le-nouveau...aigles-revele/

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    Tours and Caen have both been approved to compete in Division 1 this season, Épinal has been denied their Ligue Magnus spot.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...derale-d-appel

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    Toulouse has been approved to return to Division 1

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...-en-division-1

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    Calendars for pools A and B posted

    http://hccalessangliers.fr/site/wp-c...on-2-15-16.pdf

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    After everything, Épinal has finally been approved to compete in Ligue Magnus

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...ge-club-epinal

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    2016 off-season

    Let's have a look at what as been going on so far in France this summer.

    This coming season the Ligue Magnus is making a big step to bring more professionalism in french hockey with the number of teams going down from 14 to 12 and the regular season lasting 44 games instead of 26.

    Morzine-Avoriaz-Les Gets gained the last spot in top flight after winning the qualification series against Division 1 champion Nice. Soon after the old rumour of the club merging with Chamonix in case they stayed up came back with force and became official on 13th April. The FFHG had to look for another team to complete the the league and asked Nice, Lyon and Briancon, both relegated from Ligue Magnus, as well as Division 1 finalist Anglet to come forward. Only the first two answered back and Nice having priority was given the spot on 27th May.

    As part of the professionalisation, all the Ligue Magnus clubs announced one after the other the establishment of their limited company running their top flight team separately from the association running the minor hockey.

    On 1st June, the FFHG announced the naming sponsorship for the league with Saxoprint, an online printing service company, and the new logo going with it (http://www.liguemagnus.com/ligue-mag...-sponsor-titre).

    However the day didn't end well for the FFHG as they received a letter from Brest citing potential future financial difficulties and asking to be relegated in Division 1. On 3rd June, the federation decided to agree to Brest's request with the imperative condition of the club's finances being validated, a €10,000 fine and the team being banned from taking part in Playoffs this season. On that same day was also announced the musical chairs following the Chamonix-Morzine merger. Division 2 champion Clermont-Ferrand take Nice's place in Division 1 while Division 2 qualification series loser Strasbourg's reserve team stays in Division 2.

    On 18th-19th June the FFHG held its annual AGM. Details about the Saxoprint Ligue Magnus' new format were confirmed. Following the 44-game regular season, the top 8 teams qualify to best-of-seven series playoffs. The bottom 4 play a double round-robin relegation round keeping the points gained against the teams involved. The team finishing last is relegated in Division 1 and replaced by the second tier's champion.

    It was also announced the Division 2 who may finally start again with 20 teams is going back to a regional format for the regular season with a North-South divide. Groups for the new U20 and U17 leagues were unveilled (http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...if-et-studieux)

    On 27th June, the Ligue Magnus' calendar was released. Play will start on 13th September. Round 1 will include the Match des Champions between Rouen and Gap on 14th. Regular season will end on 24th February 2017. French Cup final will be on 19th February in Paris' AccorHotels Arena (formerly Paris-Bercy) (http://www.liguemagnus.com/ligue-mag...lendrier-16-17). It was also announced the second Winter Game planned on 30th December in Lyon's Parc OL will be between Lyon and Grenoble (http://www.liguemagnus.com/ligue-mag...erby-rhonalpin). Two days later, the playoffs and relegation round dates were released with a start date on 28th February. The final will be from 28th March to 9th April (http://www.liguemagnus.com/ligue-mag...le-de-maintien).

    On 1st July, Chamonix-Morzine unveilled its logo and website. The new team's nickname is the Pionniers de Chamonix-Morzine (Pioneers) (http://www.liguemagnus.com/ligue-mag...amonix-morzine)

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    CNSCG validations

    As usual the Ligue Magnus, Division 1 and Division 2 clubs' finances are being checked. A point on the validations so far.

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated: Amiens, Nice

    Division 1
    Validated: Brest, Cholet, La Roche-sur-Yon, Neuilly-sur-Marne
    Validated under conditions: Dunkerque

    Division 2
    Validated: Amnéville, Avignon, Chambéry, Évry-Viry, Limoges, Montpellier, Rouen 2, Strasbourg 2

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/files/D%..._juin_2016.pdf

    Next meeting will be on 4th-5th July.

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    That's a fantastic update Ciremya....thank you! Personally, I'm sad to see Chamonix and Morzine merge.....two clubs with their own great histories. Which will be their home rink? Which players will they keep? Which coaches?

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    Hi Marc

    They will use both home rinks (half of the games in each town).

    The coach was the obvious choice : Stéphane Gros has worked in Chamonix for several years, and led Morzine to their Ligue Magnus final in 2008. He's highly respected in both clubs.

    They have kept around 6-7 players from both teams, with quite a lot of departures.
    You can see the transfer table regularly updated here :
    http://www.passionhockey.com/2016022...erts-2017.html
    That's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise

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    Croatian defender Borna Silovic (23) signed for Annecy, in French Division 2.

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    Merci Beaucoup, Marc. Good to see you here. If you have the time, maybe you can give is occasional updates on the French hockey scene in the coming year.

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    CNSCG Validations

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciremya View Post
    As usual the Ligue Magnus, Division 1 and Division 2 clubs' finances are being checked. A point on the validations so far.

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated: Amiens, Nice

    Division 1
    Validated: Brest, Cholet, La Roche-sur-Yon, Neuilly-sur-Marne
    Validated under conditions: Dunkerque

    Division 2
    Validated: Amnéville, Avignon, Chambéry, Évry-Viry, Limoges, Montpellier, Rouen 2, Strasbourg 2

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/files/D%..._juin_2016.pdf

    Next meeting will be on 4th-5th July.
    Update on the validations from the CNSCG:

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated: Angers, Chamonix-Morzine, Épinal, Gap,
    Validated under conditions: Bordeaux, Dijon (TBC), Grenoble, Lyon, Rouen
    TBC: Strasbourg

    Division 1
    Validated: Clermont-Ferrand,
    Validated under conditions: Anglet, Briancon, Mulhouse, Nantes, Tours
    Not validated: Caen
    TBC: Courbevoie

    Division 2
    Validated: Asnières, Cergy, Valence, Wasquehal
    Validated under conditions: Annecy, Francais Volants, Marseille, Meudon, Roanne, Toulouse, Villard-de-Lans
    TBC: Mont-Blanc

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...-cnscg-suite-2
    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...-cnscg-suite-3

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    Caen's non-validation in Division 1 is nothing more than an administrative delay according to the club. The Drakkars contest the conditions imposed by the CNSCG (€2,500 fine for non-respect of last year's contract between Caen and the FFHG) and appealed the decision.

    http://www.hockeyclubcaen.com/2016/07/communique-2/

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    Dijon will export 4-5 home games to Besancon's 1,300-seat Patinoire La Fayette.

    http://www.bienpublic.com//sport-loc...hes-a-besancon

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    CNSCG validations

    Last validations confirmed. Only Division 1's Caen is left following their appeal.

    Ligue Magnus
    Validated: Strasbourg

    Division 1
    Validated under conditions: Courbevoie

    Division 2
    Validated under conditions: Mont-Blanc

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...-cnscg-suite-4

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    Ligue Magnus
    Following the CNSCG report on Grenoble's "breaches of administrative rules, financial, fiscal or statutory, concealment of official documents and document production not corresponding to the facts", the FFHG board has decided to:
    - bring former club's president Stéphanie Carrel-Magnan to a disciplinary commission "for concealment of official documents that have distorted the analysis of the real financial situation of the club",
    - sanction the club of 6 points for the 2016-2017 season
    - ban the club of French Cup competition for the next two seasons.

    These sanctions come on top of those included in the CNSCG contract signed earlier this month including a €55,000 fine, €15,000 of which are suspended.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...g-grenoble2016
    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/files/D%...cation_COF.pdf

    Division 1
    Courbevoie has decided to reject the CNSCG contract and not take part in Division 1 this season. The club is therefore relegated in Division 3, banned from post-season action this season and fined €6,000. No team will be picked from Division 2 leaving the second tier with 13 teams.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...fhg-courbevoie

    Calendar has been released. The regular season will last from 10th September until 4th March.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/files/20...r_D1_16-17.pdf

    Division 2
    Calendar has also been released. The regular season will last from 17th September until 11th February.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/files/20...r_D2_16-17.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciremya View Post
    Caen's non-validation in Division 1 is nothing more than an administrative delay according to the club. The Drakkars contest the conditions imposed by the CNSCG (€2,500 fine for non-respect of last year's contract between Caen and the FFHG) and appealed the decision.

    http://www.hockeyclubcaen.com/2016/07/communique-2/
    Caen's sanctions have been revised. The club is now sanctionned with a suspended €4,800 fine for non-respect of previous financial objectives.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...mffhg-caen2016

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    Division 3
    The FFHG published the Divsion 3 groups. The 33 teams, including Tornado Luxembourg, are divided in four regional groups, three of 8 and one of 9. 2016 champion Montpellier is gone one step up while Limoges 2, Dunkerque 2 et Valence 2 are gone dormant. Courbevoie 2 is replaced by the club's flag team following its administrative relegation and Garges seems to be going solo without Deuil-la-Barre with whom they shared their top team for the past 8 seasons. Reims is making its comeback a year after the previous club went bankrupt, Cergy 2 (last played in 2015), Amiens 2 (last played in 2006), Avignon 2 and Toulouse-Blagnac 2 are joining in as well. Unlike in recent seasons, all Paris area teams are gathered in the same group. In total, 19 reserve teams are facing 14 first teams.

    http://www.hockeyfrance.com/ffhg/act...on-des-groupes

    I guess many are disappointed the number of teams is not going really up. There was some hopes following the reforms in youth leagues (U22 and U18 replaced by U20 and U17). Metz and Saint-Ouen were mentionned at some point but still not yet.

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