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Thread: 2013 IIHF World Div.IIA Championship - Zagreb, Croatia; 14th-20th.Apr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    Nothing special to report. Domination through most of the game. Goalie won man of the match award for AUS, so that says enough :)
    Hecimovic and Prpic arrived two days ago (!?), and they will be better in next game. All in all everything but promotion would be complete disaster.
    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    I saw this "Nema predaje" in the background. It seems to be there always when the WC is in Zagreb? I saw on older WCs too.
    Besides that i saw that somone wrote "IFK on paska". If I understand my finnish it could mean "IFK (Helsinki I supose?) is shit" or something like that. :-) Who´s fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloklo View Post
    I saw this "Nema predaje" in the background. It seems to be there always when the WC is in Zagreb? I saw on older WCs too.
    Besides that i saw that somone wrote "IFK on paska". If I understand my finnish it could mean "IFK (Helsinki I supose?) is shit" or something like that. :-) Who´s fans?
    "Nema predaje" is classic banner that dates back in days of Interliga.

    IFK on PAKSA Rendulic said in one interview between periods of HPK - HIFK game, and one cro member who follows fin hockey closely made that banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloklo View Post
    Bravo Serbia! Great win! I had some bad thoughts after the first period while I followed IIHF´s liveticker. After registrating that Spain shot 7 shots before Serbia shot their first I thought that this might be worse then I excpected. It turned the other way!

    Maybe Alcaine was missing in Spain?

    I hope the guys manage to reload for tomorrows clash against Belgium which is a traditionally difficult oponent for Serbia. A point or a win propably means avoiding a relegation - at least.

    Serbias win turns the relegation-discussion into a drama since anyone can beat anyone as it seems.
    Improved domestic league = improved international results. Slohokej only hurt our preformance. :)
    I predict second place for serbia's team. Or at least third.

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    Great win by Serbia......I didn't expect that at all. So much for my predictions for this group now!

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    live stream for Serbia - Belgium
    http://www.balkansport.info/showthread.php?665

    You need to register for this site, but probably some of the world livestream sites will linked this game...
    Last edited by BALBOA; 15-04-2013 at 22:56.

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    http://sportska-tv.com/

    live stream for CRO - SPA

    Serbian game is also on cable pay tv.

    Serbs looked good, Spain has a young team, while iceland looked really shabby.
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    Iceland win 3:2 vs Australia - Shootout. Aussies are dissapointing so far in this tournament. A big drop from competing against superior teams last year in 1B.
    Looking at a 3-5 finish now.

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    Day 2; Game 4

    Australia - Iceland 2:3/SO (1:2, 0:0, 1:0, 0:0-0:1)
    0:1 - 04.51 Robin Hedstrom (Alengaard, Gislason) PP2
    0:2 - 06.24 Petur Maack (Alengaard, Sigurdarson) PP1
    1:2 - 07.49 Cameron Todd (Webster) PP1
    2:2 - 48.34 Darren Corstens (Wilson, Kyros)
    2:3 - 65.00 Emil Alengaard
    PIM: 6x2 - 4x2 SOG: 27-31 Att: 63
    Goalkeepers: Anthony Kimlin 28/31 - Dennis Hedstrom 25/27
    Ref: Marc Wiegand (SUI) Linesmen: Trpimir Piragic (CRO), Mihai-Ariel Trandafir (ROU)
    AUS: Kimlin Anthony; Graham Todd, Darcy Kevin, Todd Cameron, Powell Thomas, Webster Lliam +C, Kudla David, Greer Sean, Darge Wehebe, Schlamp Michael +A, Corstens Darren, Manco Tomas, Huxley David, Cliff William, Stephenson Todd, Stephenson Scott +A, Jones Sean, Funes Brian, Bale Jonathan, Wilson Samuel, Kyros Jordan
    ISL: Hedstrom Dennis; Palsson Robert, Jonsson Ingvar +C, Alengaard Emil +A, Maack Petur, Sigurdarson Bjorn, Blondal Orri, Magnusson Jonas, Hedstrom Robin, Andresson Ulfar, Gislason Jon +A, Arnason Sigurdur, Jakobsson Bjorn, Bergmann Brynjar, Mikaelsson Andri, Leifsson Johann, Arnason Ingthor, Omarsson Thomas, Thormodsson Egill, Hrafnsson Stefan, Bjornsson Olafur

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    Very good work Belgium, a nice win. With the way things are going for some of the other countries, they might have a chance on the final day to fight with Croatia for promotion. But of course, I dont want to get ahead of myself, still tons of work to do, cheering for it though, would be nice to see.

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    Day 2; Game 5

    Serbia - Belgium 0:4 (0:1, 0:0, 0:3)
    0:1 - 14.04 Jens Engelen (V.Morgan, M.Morgan)
    0:2 - 43.19 Ben Vercammen (V.Morgan)
    0:3 - 49.34 Joep Vercammen (Maas, B.Vercammen)
    0:4 - 53.19 Mitch Morgan (Gyesbreghs, Engelen) PP1
    PIM: 5x2 - 9x2 SOG: 30-34 Att: 114
    Goalkeepers: Milan Lukovic 30/34 - Bjorn Steijlen 30/30
    Ref: Gergely Kincses (HUN) Linesmen: Jian Cao (CHN), Florian Hofer (AUT)
    SRB: Lukovic Milan; Brkusanin Marko, Sabados Robert, Jankovic Nemanja +A, Sretovic Marko +C, Milovanovic Marko, Komazec Dragan, Ilic Stefan, Ristic Srdjan +A, Babic Milos, Rakovic Nenad, Korac Mihajlo, Lukovic Aleksa, Vucurevic Nemanja, Despotovic Aleksa, Filipovic Dimitrije, Trimcevic Filip, Plavsic Dominij
    BEL: Steijlen Bjorn; Engelen Jens, de Herdt Niki, Morgan Vincent +C, Morgan Mitch, Geerts Don, Maas Lorenzo, Gyesbreghs Vadim +A, Vercammen Joep, Vercammen Jan +A, Vroemans Nils, Paulus Jordan, Leirs Dries, Kolodziejczyk Bryan, Steijnen Dries, Wouters Pieter-Jan, Franssen Yente, Dewin Timo, Thurura Dean, Torremans Ben

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    Actually not an unexcpected win for Belgium. It´s always tough games for Serbia against Belgium. It´s simply a good team.

    Serbia vs Belgium, 2001 - 2011:
    2001 4:4
    2005 5:2
    2006 2:2
    2007 1:2
    2008 4-5 OT
    2009 2:3
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    If I compare last year, level of Serbian playing is much worse. But, this is what I expected from our team...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kopitar11 View Post
    Maybe Bulgarian-Serbian league + Romanian teams, or CSKA and Partizan in MOL Interliga? What do you think of that?
    How come that you are not any more in Sofia? When you come from Sofia to Belgrade? Today?

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    Day 2; Game 6

    Spain - Croatia 2:6 (0:4, 1:1, 1:1)
    0:1 - 08.22 Joel Prpic (Hecimovic)
    0:2 - 10.54 John Hecimovic (Prpic, Lovrencic)
    0:3 - 13.08 Borna Rendulic (Lovrencic) SH1
    0:4 - 16.18 John Hecimovic(2) (Novak, Prpic) PP1
    1:4 - 27.56 Pol Gonzalez (Puyuelo) SH1
    1:5 - 38.27 Michael Novak (Prpic, Sertich) PP1
    2:5 - 46.17 Pol Gonzalez(2) SH1
    2:6 - 55.17 Joel Prpic(2) (Jacmenjak, Lovrencic) SH1
    PIM: 10x2 - 8x2 SOG: 23-39 Att: 2500
    Goalkeepers: Luis Sokolov 12/16 (Bruno Gonzalez 21/23) - Mate Tomljenovic 21/23
    Ref: Daniel Gamper (ITA) Linesmen: Andrei Haurylenka (BLR), James Kavanagh (GBR)
    ESP: Sokolov Luis (40.00 Gonzalez Bruno); Brabo Juan, Gonzalez Pol, Betran Guillermo +A, Puyuelo Pablo, Boronat Oriol, Paz Eduardo, Vea Alejsandro, Garcia-Arias Javier, Gavilanes Jose, Munoz Pablo +A, Vea Jorge, Ubieto Adrian, Betran Adrian, Munoz Juan, Pedraz Alejandro, Barnola Salvador +C, Martinez Zigor, Vazquez Oscar, Sosa Adrian, Carbonell Alejandro
    CRO: Tomljenovic Mate; Sijan Ivan, MacAulay Kenny, Hecimovic John, Lovrencic Marko +A, Prpic Joel +C, Markovic Luka, Sertich Andy, Blagus Mislav, Kanaet Dominik, Rendulic Borna +A, Tadic Marko, Senzel Nikola, Cunko Tomislav, Novak Michael, Sakic Marko, Jacmenjak Igor, Lazic Igor, Brencun Ivan, Miric Tadija, Mikulic Luka

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloklo View Post
    Actually not an unexcpected win for Belgium. It´s always tough games for Serbia against Belgium. It´s simply a good team.

    Serbia vs Belgium, 2001 - 2011:
    2001 4:4
    2005 5:2
    2006 2:2
    2007 1:2
    2008 4-5 OT
    2009 2:3
    I was following online. It looked fairly even, for at least two periods. And then out of nowhere it was 3-0, and then 4-0. :/

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    Yesterday the Belgian team played really well, it can be seen that they play in the Dutch league and that it helps them in progressing of their hockey. In Serbian team it can be seen that we have no league, players, sponsors .. very bad! :/

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    belgian team played bad. serbs played good for 2/3 then they didnt have any more strenght.

    no one can't score on serbian team.

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    Belgium was better in the first period, in the second they played smart in the defensive zone and waited to Serbian players stay without power. In the last period they just finished the job. Everyone has their own way of watching :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkovs View Post
    Spain - Croatia 2:6 (0:4, 1:1, 1:1)
    0:3 - 13.08 Borna Rendulic (Lovrencic) SH1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=KkpjFwO9iX8
    Hokej u Hrvatskoj ima svijetlu budućnost SAMO AKO mjerodavni ljudi rade svoj posao kako treba - Pršljen
    Hockey in Croatia has a bright future ONLY IF relevant people do their job right - Pršljen

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    Quote Originally Posted by fikret View Post
    Yesterday the Belgian team played really well, it can be seen that they play in the Dutch league and that it helps them in progressing of their hockey. In Serbian team it can be seen that we have no league, players, sponsors .. very bad! :/
    Serbia looked very tired and pretty disorganized. In the second third, they played extremely offensively, but with no results. Belgium was patient and calm, has used every chance to punish our goalie, and it worked with a very simple and effective counter-attacks. With no sponsors and money, there is no hockey :/

    Croatia is a superior team on this tournament, for now they have no problem :)
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    I´m a bit jealous of you who were able to watch the game. I tried to register on Balkansport - succesfully I thought - but was met by a text that told me that I didn´t have the permission to access the page. I mailed but not even today, the day after, no answer was sent....

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    It could be a real thriller from tomorrow and on in the struggle to avoid relegation if Aussies beats Serbia and Spain beats Belgium. These are not impossible results even though Belgium seems to be really good this year. It would mean that Australia would have four points and Serbia and Spain three with two rounds to go...

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    Nice, nice. He also made some nice passes, but his linemates couldn't convert it...

    Must say that Spain dissapointed me. Don't want to take anything from our victory, but really expected more from team that took a point from Korea in D1 not so long ago (2011.).

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    Serbian "Slohokej" team is joking with the team of Australia :/. Pause (of one day) came at the right moment :)
    5:1 after 2/3

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    Quote Originally Posted by fikret View Post
    Serbian "Slohokej" team is joking with the team of Australia :/. Pause (of one day) came at the right moment :)
    5:1 after 2/3
    Do you watch the game Fikret? I follow it on the IIHF-ticker and it seems that Serbia is outplayed but incredebly efficient.

    Even if I´m delighted over the win I wonder: letting AUSTRALIA shoot 55 shots?? I excpected something like that against Croatia, but Aussies??!

    Anyway: MISSION COMPLETED. O

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    Day 3; Game 7

    Australia - Serbia 3:5 (1:2, 0:3, 2:0)
    0:1 - 16.49 Marko Brkusanin (Sabados, Jankovic) PP1
    1:1 - 19.16 Thomas Darge (Webster)
    1:2 - 19.45 Marko Sretovic (Milovanovic, Jankovic)
    1:3 - 23.16 Srdjan Ristic (Babic, Rakovic)
    1:4 - 28.28 Marko Milovanovic (Sretovic, Brkusanin)
    1:5 - 36.42 Aleksa Lukovic (Vucurevic, Sretovic)
    2:5 - 56.39 Thomas Powell (Graham, Webster) PP2
    3:5 - 59.49 Scott Stephenson (Corstens, T.Stephenson)
    PIM: 8x2 - 11x2 SOG: 55-28 Att: 52
    Goalkeepers: Anthony Kimlin 23/28 - Arsenije Rankovic 52/55
    Ref: Daniel Gamper (ITA) Linesmen: Andrei Haurylenka (BLR), Marko Sakovic (CRO)
    AUS: Kimlin Anthony; Graham Todd, Manco Tomas, Todd Cameron, Powell Thomas, Webster Lliam +C, Darcy Kevin, Greer Sean, Darge Wehebe, Schlamp Michael +A, Corstens Darren, Kudla David, Huxley David, Cliff William, Stephenson Todd, Stephenson Scott +A, Jones Sean, Funes Brian, Bale Jonathan, Wilson Samuel, Kyros Jordan
    SRB: Rankovic Arsenije; Brkusanin Marko, Sabados Robert, Jankovic Nemanja +A, Sretovic Marko +C, Milovanovic Marko, Komazec Dragan, Ilic Stefan, Ristic Srdjan +A, Babic Milos, Rakovic Nenad, Korac Mihajlo, Lukovic Aleksa, Vucurecivc Nemanja, Despotovic Aleksa, Filipovic Dimitrije, Trimcevic Filip

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    It was nice to watch domination of Serbian team on the ice. Serbian "Slohokej" team looks much-much better!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sloklo View Post
    Don´t make me controversial Balboa. I don´t take part in these discussions "whats good or not" in Serbian hockey. My opinion is that Serbia needs both a domestic league and participation in regional leagues.
    I didn´t translate the whole article and that wasn´t my issue either. I simply made a short notice out of it.

    But if it makes you happier:

    Marko Milovanovic think´s it´s necessary for the team to show the quality the gained playing in Slohokej league, to turn the movie back and to show it on ice...
    Chipsy, thank you! :/ :) ;)
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    It's the slohokej team in only some hardcore fan's sad dreams of a failed hockey development plan. Slohokej = worse serbian league, and worse results for serbian hockey preformance.

    Check the roster - http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/342/IHM3420SRB_33_2_0.pdf - it's by no means a slohokej team. With an even better domestic league next year I expect even better results.



    Also, who knows, maybe there will be some surprise, maybe serbia will beat croatia. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloklo View Post
    Even if I´m delighted over the win I wonder: letting AUSTRALIA shoot 55 shots?? I excpected something like that against Croatia, but Aussies??!
    The shot ratio is just crazy.
    I am guessing that the goalie is the reason for the success?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woppa View Post


    Also, who knows, maybe there will be some surprise, maybe serbia will beat croatia. ;)
    That would be miracle. Serbia played well, but Aussies had enough space in Serbian zone to shot and they were entering Serbian zone with ease. Assuming that Croatian offence is far more potent than Serbian, Rankovic will again face ton of shots.

    And congrats to Serbian team on staying in this group. Had Partizan played MOL/Slo league this season Serbs would fight for promotion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    That would be miracle. Serbia played well, but Aussies had enough space in Serbian zone to shot and they were entering Serbian zone with ease. Assuming that Croatian offence is far more potent than Serbian, Rankovic will again face ton of shots.

    And congrats to Serbian team on staying in this group. Had Partizan played MOL/Slo league this season Serbs would fight for promotion...
    Don't know where is "edit post" option : I wanted to write : Assuming that Croatian offence is far more potent than Australian. My mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    That would be miracle. Serbia played well, but Aussies had enough space in Serbian zone to shot and they were entering Serbian zone with ease. Assuming that Croatian offence is far more potent than Serbian, Rankovic will again face ton of shots.

    And congrats to Serbian team on staying in this group. Had Partizan played MOL/Slo league this season Serbs would fight for promotion...
    Yes, it would be a miracle... but miracles do happen. ;) It's not likely of course.

    Each season of the slohokej lead to serbia have worse and worse results in the international level... thanks in part to there being a worse and worse domestic league. Monopoly is not good, and this vision that one team should represent the country is an unhealthy choice. Had slohokej happened again this season, I am pretty sure that the serbs would have fallen out of this division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woppa View Post
    , I am pretty sure that the serbs would have fallen out of this division.
    I am pretty sure you are wrong, but of course, everybody has it's opinion :)

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    Good work Belgium, keep on rolling.

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    Day 3; Game 8

    Spain - Belgium 3:6 (0:3, 0:1, 3:2)
    0:1 - 17.33 Mitch Morgan (V.Morgan, Geerts)
    0:2 - 18.39 Vincent Morgan
    0:3 - 19.30 Lorenzo Maas (Raekelboom, B.Vercammen)
    0:4 - 26.36 Vincent Morgan(2) (M.Morgan, de Herdt)
    1:4 - 40.44 Pablo Munoz (Boronat, Garcia-Arias) PP2
    2:4 - 41.07 Pol Gonzalez (Brabo, Puyuelo) PP1
    2:5 - 50.28 Vincent Morgan(3) (M.Morgan)
    2:6 - 52.10 Don Geerts (V.Morgan, M.Morgan)
    3:6 - 52.57 Zigor Martinez (Brabo)
    PIM: 4x2 - 6x2 SOG: 33-40 Att: 123
    Goalkeepers: Bruno Gonzalez 24/28 (Luis Sokolov 10/12) - Bjorn Steijlen 30/33
    Ref: Alexandre Bourreau (FRA) Linesmen: James Kavanagh (GBR), Trpimir Piragic (CRO)
    ESP: Gonzalez Bruno (20.00 Sokolov Luis); Brabo Juan, Gonzalez Pol, Betran Guillermo +A, Betran Adrian, Puyuelo Pablo, Paz Eduardo, Vea Alejandro, Pedraz Alejandro, Garcia-Arias Javier, Munoz Pablo +A, Vea Jorge, Ubieto Adrian, Barnola Salvador +C, Munoz Juan, Carbonell Alejandro, Martinez Zigor, Vazquez Oscar, Sosa Adrian, Gavilanes Jose, Boronat Oriol
    BEL: Steijlen Bjorn; Engelen Jens, de Herdt Niki, Morgan Vincent +C, Morgan Mitch, Geerts Don, Maas Lorenzo, Gyesbreghs Vadim +A, Vercammen Joep, Vercammen Ben, Raekelboom Jan +A, Vroemans Nils, Paulus Jordan, Leirs Dries, Kolodziejczyk Bryan, Steijnen Dries, Wouters Pieter-Jan, Franssen Yente, Dewin Timo, Thurura Dean, Torremans Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloklo View Post
    Do you watch the game Fikret? I follow it on the IIHF-ticker and it seems that Serbia is outplayed but incredebly efficient.
    I do not have much time, but I can give you a few short words. Serbia looked very good during the whole game except in the last 5 minutes when they were making pointless penalties.Good skating, lots of chances, the players are played simple combinations, and in one moment Australia looked very helplessly. Of course, most of the players were part of the team who played three years Slohokej league and it was visible. Great game, Bravo Serbia!

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    Out of interest, what level could the Morgan brothers play at, they look too good for this level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukfan View Post
    Out of interest, what level could the Morgan brothers play at, they look too good for this level?
    I may be misunderstanding you so if I do, please correct me but with Belgium they would be able to get their points but near the top of IB, all of IA, they would be too easy to shut down since everybody would just focus on their line. Take them off Belgium, as long as the country isnt a one line country, I could see them putting up very respectable numbers at the IA level.

    I still have hopes they join a Ligue Magnus club soon.

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    Day 3; Game 9

    Croatia - Iceland 6:1 (1:0, 0:0, 5:1)
    1:0 - 14.32 Andy Sertich (Hecimovic, Lovrencic)
    2:0 - 43.38 Mislav Blagus (Kanaet, Hecimovic)
    3:0 - 48.24 Marko Lovrencic (Jacmenjak, Sertich)
    4:0 - 49.58 Dominik Kanaet
    5:0 - 52.03 John Hecimovic (Sertich, Prpic)
    6:0 - 56.48 Tomislav Cunko (Novak, Sakic)
    6:1 - 58.05 Emil Alengaard (Sigurdarson)
    PIM: 5x2 - 3x2 SOG: 49-16 Att: 1428
    Goalkeepers: Mate Tomljenovic 15/16 - Dennis Hedstrom 39/44 (Snorri Sigurbergsson 4/5)
    Ref: Gergely Kincses (HUN) Linesmen: Jian Cao (CHN), Florian Hofer (AUT)
    CRO: Tomljenovic Mate; Sijan Ivan, MacAulay Kenny, Blagus Mislav, Kanaet Dominik, Rendulic Borna +A, Markovic Luka, Sertich Andy, Hecimovic John, Lovrencic Marko +A, Prpic Joel +C, Tadic Marko, Senzel Nikola, Cunko Tomislav, Novak Michael, Sakic Marko, Jacmenjak Igor, Brencun Ivan, Miric Tadija, Mikulic Luka
    ISL: Hedstrom Dennis (07.57 Sigurbergsson Snorri); Arnason Ingthor, Omarsson Tomas, Thormodsson Egill, Hrafnsson Stefan, Bjornsson Olafur, Arnason Sigurdur, Jakobsson Bjorn, Bergmann Brynjar, Mikaelsson Andri, Leifsson Johann, Blondal Orri, Magnusson Jonas, Hedstrom Robin, Andresson Ulfar, Gislason Jon +A, Palsson Robert, Jonsson Ingvar +C, Alengaard Emil +A, Maack Petur, Sigurdarson Bjorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkovs View Post
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    His first senior NT point. Hopefully one of the many to come.

    Game was one-sided for most part, but Iceland goalie Hedstrom was fantastic. Odd that Tomljenovic was picked as best croatian player of the game despite he haven't had any outcome on the game.

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    Serbia beat Australia because Rankovic stood on his head.......end of story. You can't claim that Serbia outplayed Australia when the Aussies outshot them 55-28. Anyway, brilliant performance by the Serbian goaltender.

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    Unfortunately, I have to tell you that you're wrong because you probably did not watch the game. I have not heard that live-ticker is actually a better parameter than live watching, but I can not claim. Anyway, brilliant performance by the Serbian goaltender and the whole team. :/

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    I don't think a team which gets outshot so badly can claim to have dominated the match. Perhaps the game was much more even than what the shots indicate, but to claim having dominated is pushing it too far.

    Nonetheless, Arsenije Rankovic with a fine performance and it will be interesting how the coach uses his goaltenders for the rest of the tournament, given that Milan Lukovic is the starting goaltender.

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    So, after 3 games we could say that we have clear situation, and the battle for promotion will be the last game between Belgium and Croatia. Serbia, in my eyes, is without any chance against Croats but we could also say that in one game everything is possible. I am happy with performance of my "Slohokej" team, and unhappy because we will lose some good players in the near future :/

    1 Croatia 9
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    3 Serbia 6
    4 Island 2
    5 Australia 1
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    I do not agree with full part of Fikret's answer but 80% he correctly wrote. Only first period was equal period, but in other two periods Serbs gave us great fun. Result of 5:1 is much realistic than what was on the end. Nothing against you Fikret but sometimes you must understand all persons who do not have opportunity watching the game :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BASSA View Post
    Serbia, in my eyes, is without any chance against Croats but we could also say that in one game everything is possible
    Serbs has more talent in offence than Iceland, but in order to have any kind of chance against Cro they need big performances from either Rankovic or Lukovic. Rankovic showed more than Lukovic, he played like proven veteran goalie yesterday and I expect him to start against Croatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    Serbs has more talent in offence than Iceland, but in order to have any kind of chance against Cro they need big performances from either Rankovic or Lukovic. Rankovic showed more than Lukovic, he played like proven veteran goalie yesterday and I expect him to start against Croatia.
    Traditionally Serbia had problems with their keepers. Only for a few seasons they had a truly first-keeper in Tihomir Zecevic but after him it´s been a little problematic.
    Lukovic has been the best choice but for several seasons the WC was moreless the only 60-minutes games he played. It is hard to develop under these circumstances. The second-keepers were usually too young.
    I don´t want by any means call Lukovic a bad keeper. He is quite good but maybe due to not too much ice-time he mixes excellent perfomances with really shaky.
    Rankovic has been the upcoming man for a couple of seasons but he´s still young and could also have difficulties with keeping a constant level. If I was Nikola Bera I wouldn´t be 100% sure for neither of them.

    And whats more important is that nevermind who tomorrows goalie will be he must rely on a solid defence. And that might be an another problem...or?

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    Seems that Spain, Iceland and Australia will fight avoiding the relegation. Important matches are Spain vs Iceland and Spain vs Australia. Australia and Spain is surprisingly poor this year. Seems that without Alcaine Spain is much weaker or there are some other top players missing? And Australia played one division higher in last year but now they are fighting to avoid relegation. They played last year much more better in higher division. They lost all their matches, but they avoided lopsided scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maits View Post
    Seems that Australia will fight avoiding the relegation
    If they get relegated, will it be first time in history that one team gets relegated two years in a row ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    If they get relegated, will it be first time in history that one team gets relegated two years in a row ?
    Netherlands in the late seventies and early eighties: 1978 1st C-pool, 1979 1st B-pool, 1981 last in A-pool, 1982 last in B-pool.

    Switzerland in the seventies: 1st B-pool 1971, last in A-pool 1972, 7th and relgated B-pool 1973...

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