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    Canada 2014 Canadian Olympic Team

    Hockey Canada announced today the coaches for the 2014 Olympic team:
    Head Coach: Detroit - Mike Babcock
    Assistant Coaches:
    Boston - Claude Julien
    St.Louis - Ken Hitchcock
    Dallas - Lindey Ruff

    They also announced potential candidates for the team will be invited to an orientation camp in Calgary Aug 25-28. Like before, an explosion of debate will now take place in the country about who should, and who should not be on the team. I wish they would just drop the puck and lets go!

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    Here are the 47 players invited to the orientation camp

    http://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/Tea...on-Camp/Roster

    Notable non-invites include Jamie Benn and Jason Spezza

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    Lets go for gold! this is our game =)....

    But seriously... Methot but no spezza?!

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    It's my understanding that the players will not be on the ice during the orientation camp due to heavy insurance costs. It will strictly be a classroom setting filling in the players on the logistics etc. has anyone heard different?

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    one month into the season, and we already seem to have some potential changes to the final roster. For what its worth, here are my thoughts on players who are trending up or down with their chances of being selected:

    Trending down:
    Rick Nash - injured
    Claude Giroux - slow start in Philly
    Patrick Sharp - same as Giroux
    Jordan Eberle - Edmonton is lousy
    Taylor Hall - same as above + injured
    Andrew Ladd - Winnipeg is lousy. He was on the bubble anyway
    Dan Boyle - his injury won't help

    Trending up:
    Patrick Marleau - good start with San Jose
    Matt Duchene - dominating start in Colorado
    Logan Couture - power forward, can score goals, young.
    Jason Spezza - trying hard to prove Team Canada brain trust wrong and doing a good job of it

    Locks anyway;
    Goal - no one

    D:
    Weber
    Keith
    Doughty

    F:
    Crosby
    Toews
    Bergeron
    Stamkos
    Tavares
    E. Staal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ref72 View Post

    Locks anyway;
    Goal - no one
    These aren't locks certainly...more like 'good bets':

    Corey Crawford...won a Cup with Chicago, that should count for something.
    Roberto Luongo...playing a lot better now that Schneider's out of the picture.
    Mike Smith...had a good run at 2013 Worlds, losing only in two shoot outs.
    That experience helps his chances.
    Carey Price...bad ending to last season but has returned to the form that
    made him a front runner in the first place.
    Bernier & Reimer?
    Good tandem but neither good enough to nail down #1 Leaf job
    let alone a spot on Team Canada.
    Marc Andre Fleury?
    Meh...I just don't trust this guy...remember the World Juniors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ref72 View Post
    one month into the season, and we already seem to have some potential changes to the final roster. For what its worth, here are my thoughts on players who are trending up or down with their chances of being selected:

    Trending down:
    Rick Nash - injured
    Claude Giroux - slow start in Philly
    Patrick Sharp - same as Giroux
    Jordan Eberle - Edmonton is lousy
    Taylor Hall - same as above + injured
    Andrew Ladd - Winnipeg is lousy. He was on the bubble anyway
    Dan Boyle - his injury won't help

    Trending up:
    Patrick Marleau - good start with San Jose
    Matt Duchene - dominating start in Colorado
    Logan Couture - power forward, can score goals, young.
    Jason Spezza - trying hard to prove Team Canada brain trust wrong and doing a good job of it

    Locks anyway;
    Goal - no one

    D:
    Weber
    Keith
    Doughty

    F:
    Crosby
    Toews
    Bergeron
    Stamkos
    Tavares
    E. Staal
    At least for forward I figure the locks are :

    Crosby (+ Kunitz)
    Stamkos (if healthy) and St Louis
    Getzlaf + Perry
    Tavares
    Toews
    Bergeron
    Sharp

    Then it's a free-for-all. Couture, Thornton, Benn (+ Seguin) are playing well. Staal and Nash are having lackluster years but the pedigree. Marleau was not effective last time even with his regular SJ linemates. Ladd might be a good idea as part of a shut-down line with offensive upside. Giroux ? I don't know what happened to him. Injuries maybe but I think he's out. Hall for his speed ? Eberle for his clutch ? Duchene maybe ? Yzerman et al have a tough job.

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    I forgot Mike Richards...I think he's a lock. Great two-way player and has the experience, drive.

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    On the womens side, Head coach Dan Church has resigned.

    http://www.tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/story/?id=438828

    It seems strange that he would resign so abruptly and this close to the Olympics, getting the feeling somebody behind the scenes wasnt happy with his roster choices and gave him a little push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkovs View Post
    On the womens side, Head coach Dan Church has resigned.

    http://www.tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/story/?id=438828

    It seems strange that he would resign so abruptly and this close to the Olympics, getting the feeling somebody behind the scenes wasnt happy with his roster choices and gave him a little push.
    Couldn't have happened at a worse time.
    They played the US last night in Calgary and it was very apparent
    the developments over the last 48 hours had an adverse affect
    on the Canadians play.
    They lost 5-1 in a disorganized and rather dispirited performance
    that seemed to undo all the progress they seemed to be making
    up till this point, snapping a 3 game win streak against the Americans.
    Hopefully for the Canadians, the ship will be righted when they
    next face the US Dec 30, or it could be another Nagano for Canada.

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    A lot of speculation on what this was all about. One theory that sounds reasonable is that Church wanted to bring in more new talent and ease out some of the long time players, and this didn't sit well with his boss who I guess is Melody Davidson. Nobody is saying much right now.....pretty drastic this close to the big show.

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    Stamkos actually had a light skate yesterday in Tampa which is a very pleasant surprise just 4 weeks after breaking his leg. Most everyone thought when it happened, his chances of playing in Sochi were gone. Do we dare hope he will be ready now?

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    Kevin Dineen will take over as head coach for the Women.

    http://www.tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/story/?id=439213

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    Well, the guy has an OK resume -- except ZERO experience coaching women. Tough job stepping in this late anyway, but two things - 1.) the women's game is a different game and 2.) coaching women is different then coaching men.

    He was a very popular coach and well liked in the community when he coached the AHL Pirates. Best of luck to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ref72 View Post
    Stamkos actually had a light skate yesterday in Tampa which is a very pleasant surprise just 4 weeks after breaking his leg. Most everyone thought when it happened, his chances of playing in Sochi were gone. Do we dare hope he will be ready now?
    Sure hope so -- we need every edge we can get. He is one guy who can score and that is often our problem on the big ice.

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    here is the team hot off the press - bound to be debate in Canada as always, but in the end, its a good team that will have to execute and perform to be successful just like any other team:

    Goaltenders (3):

    Roberto Luongo Montreal, Que. Vancouver (NHL)

    Carey Price Anahim Lake, B.C. Montreal (NHL)

    Mike Smith Kingston, Ont. Phoenix (NHL)

    Defencemen (8):

    Jay Bouwmeester Edmonton, Alta. St. Louis (NHL)

    Drew Doughty London, Ont. Los Angeles (NHL)

    Duncan Keith Penticton, B.C. Chicago (NHL)

    Dan Hamhuis Smithers, B.C. Vancouver (NHL)

    Alex Pietrangelo King City, Ont. St. Louis (NHL)

    P.K. Subban Toronto, Ont. Montreal (NHL)

    Marc-Édouard Vlasic Montreal, Que. San Jose (NHL)

    Shea Weber Sicamous, B.C. Nashville (NHL)

    Forwards (14):

    Jamie Benn Victoria, B.C. Dallas (NHL)

    Patrice Bergeron Sillery, Que. Boston (NHL)

    Jeff Carter London, Ont. Los Angeles (NHL)

    Sidney Crosby Cole Harbour, N.S. Pittsburgh (NHL)

    Matt Duchene Haliburton, Ont. Colorado (NHL)

    Ryan Getzlaf Regina, Sask. Anaheim (NHL)

    Chris Kunitz Regina, Sask. Pittsburgh (NHL)

    Patrick Marleau Aneroid, Sask. San Jose (NHL)

    Rick Nash Brampton, Ont. N.Y. Rangers (NHL)

    Corey Perry Peterborough, Ont. Anaheim (NHL)

    Patrick Sharp Thunder Bay, Ont. Chicago (NHL)

    Steven Stamkos Unionville, Ont. Tampa Bay (NHL)

    John Tavares Oakville, Ont. N.Y. Islanders (NHL)

    Jonathan Toews Winnipeg, Man. Chicago (NHL)

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    I guess there is plenty of optimism Stamkos will be
    able to play...of course, this is by no means final.

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    I wonder if the ?? about Stamkos had anything to do with St Louis not making the team ? The prevailing assumption is Kunitz made it on Crosby's coat tails. St Louis led the NHL is scoring last year (for the 2nd time in his career), and has played well in the WCh....and has amazing chemistry with Stamkos......I feel bad for the guy.

    I suppose with a 25 man roster a few guys aren't even going to see the ice, so debating the 14th forward and 8th D-man is fairly pointless. BUT....Marty belongs and I feel bad for him.

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    Oh no...Stamkos is out. This is very unfortunate.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    Oh no...Stamkos is out. This is very unfortunate.....
    It's too bad but really when the injury occurred it was a long shot he'd be ready in time.
    For him there's 2018.
    I just hope they pick St. Louis because for one, he deserves to be picked and secondly
    at 38 it's his last shot at the Olympics.

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    Marty is going and I agree, the right choice.

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    Today was quite a big day for one member of Canada's Olympic team: Women's team goaltender Shannon Szabados, fresh off an Olympic gold medal, signed her first professional contract with the Columbus Cottonmouths of the SPHL.

    http://cottonmouths.pointstreaksites...ws/news_142576

    The Edmonton, AB, Canada native is a former teammate of current Snake’s players Jordan Draper, Andy Willigar and Captain Kyle Johnson at Northern Alberta Institute of Technology of the Alberta Colleges Athletic Conference. Szabados’ signing will make her the first female to play hockey in the Southern Professional Hockey League since its inception ten years ago.

    “I am very excited to get a world class athlete that has competed and has faced, high pressured situations. Shannon has won at every level she has played, in women’s hockey or men’s hockey,” head coach Jerome Bechard said. “She won a championship with NATI last year alongside Andy Willigar and Jordan Draper so I know she can compete at this level. We are working on her immigration, and we are looking to sign her officially Thursday, where she will be backing up Loewen. She will play when she feels comfortable and situated.”
    She joins a rather short list of women who've played men's professional (or semi-pro) hockey.
    Goaltenders Manon Rhéaume (old IHL, ECHL and a couple exhibition games for the Tampa Lightning), Erin Whitten (ECHL), and Danielle Dubé (WCHL), and forwards Angela Ruggiero (Central Hockey League) and Hayley Wickenheiser (Mestis) have all spent parts of seasons with various pro teams.

    Columbus is currently sitting 7th in the 10-team league, but has a large 12-point lead on 9th-place Fayetteville. It will be interesting to see how many starts Szabados will get.

    Now let's see if anyone gives Noora Raty a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    Now let's see if anyone gives Noora Raty a look.
    Someone came and saw already. Apparently she'll play Mestis with Kiekko-Vantaa next season.

    Also, I wonder if Michelle Karvinen counts for that list. She played with Rødovre, a tier 3 men's team in Denmark. I guess that's technically not pro because she's in the NCAA now, but still.
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    Karvinen won't count.... pro is pro, means you don't have to hold down another job during the hockey season because you're getting paid to play.
    Great news for Raty though, I'm glad to hear it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    pro is pro, means you don't have to hold down another job during the hockey season because you're getting paid to play.
    If that's all it takes, then Karvinen was very much a professional... even if the rest of the team wasn't.

    Whether she could be counted as a pro or not, she definitely was a woman playing to some success among grown men, although on a level that isn't much to write home about.


    Back to Räty. Her contract has been a public secret for a while, and was confirmed today. She'll be KiVa's backup the upcoming season. Definitely interesting to see how she fares. She should have the reflexes required for the level, but her size definitely won't do her any favors.

    It'll be critical for her further participation the international games as well. She said she'll retire if she can't break it among men, because there's no women's league comparable to the NCAA which would allow her to maintain her current level.
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    It was actually tier2, not tier3 danish league, Karvinen played at, as well at the top U20 league.
    The danish 1. division is a semi pro league, probably comparable to the swedish Division 2 (tier4) level-wise. Also it's worth noticing she was only 17 the first season there.
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