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    Great Britain Elite Ice Hockey League 2014/2015

    Elite Ice Hockey League 2014/2015

    Official website
    http://www.eliteleague.co.uk/

    News sources
    British Ice Hocey: http://www.britishicehockey.co.uk/co.../elite-league/
    BBC: http://www.bbc.com/sport/ice-hockey

    Last ten Champions:
    2013/14 - Belfast Giants
    2012/13 - Nottingham Panthers
    2011/12 - Belfast Giants
    2010/11 - Sheffield Steelers
    2009/10 - Coventry Blaze
    2008/09 - Sheffield Steelers
    2007/08 - Coventry Blaze
    2006/07 - Coventry Blaze
    2005/06 - Belfast Giants
    2004/05 - Coventry Blaze

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    2013/2014 recap

    RkClubGPWOTWOTLLGS:GAPTS
    1 Belfast Giants 52 38 5 3 6 210:127 89
    2 Sheffield Steelers 52 27 4 4 17 172:141 66
    3 Dundee Stars 52 25 3 4 20 152:148 60
    4 Nottingham Panthers 52 22 3 7 20 188:169 57
    5 Braehead Clan 52 20 4 8 20 180:171 56
    6 Coventry Blaze 52 18 6 6 22 168:167 54
    7 Fife Flyers 52 17 7 5 23 172:188 53
    8 Hull Stingrays 52 19 5 4 24 168:186 52
    9 Cardiff Devils52 17 7 4 24 162:182 52
    10 Edinburgh Capitals52 9 4 3 36 134:227 29

    Scoring leaders
     PlayerCountryClubGPGAPTS
    1
    Ryan Ginand
    Coventry60514697
    2
    Guillaume Doucet
    Hull59503383
    3
    Nice Sacchetti
    Dundee50374077
    4
    Jereme Tendler
    Hull56423476
    T5
    Mac Faulkner
    Cardiff63373875

    Goalkeeping leaders
     PlayerCountryClubGPSV%SOGAA
    1
    Stephen Murphy
    Belfast5592,332,25
    2
    Dan Bakala
    Dundee5992,742,62
    3
    Frank Doyle
    Sheffield6490,262,66
    4
    Daniel Lacosta
    Cardiff2290,422,71
    5
    Craig Kowalski
    Nottingham3591,222,83

    Play-offs

    Quarter-finals
    Belfast Giants - Hull Stingrays 4:1, 3:2 (Agg: 7:3)
    Dundee Stars - Fife Flyers 3:4, 1:4 (Agg: 4:8)
    Sheffield Steelers - Coventry Blaze 3:2, 6:1 (Agg: 9:3)
    Nottingham Panthers - Braehead Clan 0:4, 1:5 (Agg: 1:9)

    Semi-finals
    Belfast Giants - Fife Flyers 1-0
    Sheffield Steelers - Braehead Clan 1-0

    3rd Place
    Braehead Clan - Fife Flyers 1-0

    Finals
    Belfast Giants - Sheffield Steelers 0-1

    Challenge Cup

    Group A
    RkClubGPWOTWOTLLGS:GAPTS
    1 Belfast Giants 12 9 1 1 1 51:28 19
    2 Dundee Stars 10 5 0 0 5 26:28 10
    3 Fife Flyers 10 4 0 1 5 26:31 9
    4 Braehead Clan 10 3 1 0 6 33:32 8
    5 Edinburgh Capitals 8 1 0 1 6 10:34 3

    Group B
    RkClubGPWOTWOTLLGS:GAPTS
    1 Nottingham Panthers 14 11 1 0 2 72:40 24
    2 Cardiff Devils 12 6 1 0 4 44:41 14
    3 Sheffield Steelers 12 6 1 0 5 41:41 14
    4 Hull Stingrays 8 1 0 1 6 28:40 3
    5 Coventry Blaze 8 1 0 1 6 20:36 3

    Quarter-finals
    Belfast Giants - Hull Stingrays x:x, x:x (Agg: x:x)*
    Nottingham Panthers - Braehead Clan 8:0, 2:7 (Agg: 10:7)
    Dundee Stars - Sheffield Steelers 0:4, 5:6 (Agg: 5:10)
    Cardiff Devils - Fife Flyers 7:3, 3:2 (Agg: 10:5)

    *Belfast and Hull used scores from League to count towards Challenge Cup, Belfast is declared winner

    Semi-finas
    Belfast Giants - Cardiff Devils 7:1, 3:3 (Agg: 10:4)
    Sheffield Steelers - Nottingham Panthers 3:5, 4:6 (Agg: 7:11)

    Finals
    Belfast Giants - Nottingham Panthers 5:2, 1:5 (Agg: 6:7)

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    Belfast Giants

    Established: 2000
    Championships: 7
    4x British League Champions: 2002, 2006, 2012, 2014
    2x British Champions: 2003, 2010
    1x Challenge Cup: 2009
    Home venue: Odyssey Arena (cap. 8,000)
    Homepage: http://www.belfastgiants.com/
    Last season: 1st (Champions), lost in Finals to Sheffield Steelers

    Head coach: Steve Thornton
    Assistant coach: Rob Stewart

    Goalkeepers
    • Stephen Murphy

    Defenders
    • Calvin Elfring
    • Jeff Mason
    • David Phillips
    • Kevin Phillips
    • Robby Sandrock

    Forwards
    • Evan Cheverie
    • Mark Garside
    • Adam Keefe
    • Darryl Lloyd
    • Craig Peacock
    • Kevin Saurette
    • Colin Shields
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    Braehead Clan

    Established: 2010
    Championships: 0
    Home venue: Braehead Arena (cap. 3,750)
    Homepage: http://www.braeheadclan.com/
    Last season: 5th, lost in Semi-finals to Sheffield Steelers, won 3rd place over Fife Flyers

    Head coach: Ryan Finnerty
    Assistant coach:

    Goalkeepers
    • Joseph Myers (new, Slough Jets - GBR/EPIHL)

    Defenders
    • Zach Sullivan (new, Basingstoke Bison - GBR/EPIHL)

    Forwards
    • Ben Davies (new, Cardiff Devils - GBR/EIHL)
    • Lee Esders
    • Tristan Harper
    • Matthew Haywood
    • Neil Trimm
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    Cardiff Devils

    Established: 1986
    Championships: 10
    4x British League Champions: 1990, 1993, 1994, 1997
    4x British Champions: 1990, 1993, 1994, 1999
    1x Autumn Cup: 1994
    1x Challenge Cup: 2006
    Home venue: Cardiff Arena (cap. 2,500)
    Homepage: http://www.cardiffdevils.com/
    Last season: 9th, missed play-offs

    Head coach: Andrew Lord
    Assistant coach: Neil Francis

    Goalkeepers
    • Ben Bowns (new, Hull Stingrays - GBR/EIHL)
    • Michael Will (new, Adelaide Adrenaline - AUS/AIHL)

    Defenders
    • Carl Hudson (new, Morzine-Avoriaz - FRA/LM)
    • Tyson Marsh
    • Mark Richardson

    Forwards
    • Doug Clarkson (new, Adirondack Phantoms - USA/AHL)
    • Chris Culligan (new, Gwinnett Gladiators - USA/ECHL)
    • Joey Haddad (new, Gwinnett Gladiators - USA/ECHL)
    • Chris Jones
    • Andrew Lord
    • Jake Morissette
    • Matthew Myers
    • Luke Piggott
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    Coventry Blaze

    Established: 2000
    Championships: 7
    4x British League Champions: 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010
    2x Challenge Cup: 2005, 2007
    1x British Champions: 2005
    Home venue: SkyDome Arena (cap. 3,600)
    Homepage: http://www.coventryblaze.co.uk/
    Last season: 6th, lost in Quarter-finals 3:9 on Aggregate to Sheffield Steelers

    Head coach: Marc Lefebvre
    Assistant coach:

    Goalkeepers
    • Connor Ranby
    • Brian Stewart (new, EV Landshut - GER/DEL2)

    Defenders
    • Steven Chalmers
    • Mike Egener
    • James Griffin
    • Mark Smith (new, Cardiff Devils - GBR/EIHL)

    Forwards
    • Kyle Bochek (new, Tulsa Oilers - USA/CHL)
    • Russell Cowley
    • Steven Goertzen (new, Sheffield Steelers - GBR/EIHL)
    • Derek Lee (new, WSV Sterzing/Vipiteno - ITA/SrA)
    • Ryan O’Marra (new, Val Pusteria - ITA/SrA)
    • Ashley Tait
    • Cale Tanaka
    • Jereme Tendler (new, Hull Stingrays - GBR/EIHL)
    • Ross Venus
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    Dundee Stars

    Established: 2001
    Championships: 3
    2x British Champions: 2002, 2005
    1x British League Champions: 2002
    Home venue: Dundee Ice Arena (cap. 3,300)
    Homepage: http://www.dundeestars.com/
    Last season: 3rd, lost in Quarter-finals 4:8 on Aggregate to Fife Flyers

    Head coach: Jeff Hutchins
    Assistant coach:

    Goalkeepers
    • Craig Holland (new, Edinburgh Capitals - GBR/EIHL)

    Defenders
    • Sam McCluskey
    • Brad Plumton (new, Cardiff Devils - GBR/EIHL)
    • Kevin Quick (new, South Carolina Stingrays - USA/ECHL)
    • Paul Swindlehurst

    Forwards
    • John Dolan
    • Jeff Hutchins
    • Bari McKenzie
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    Edinburgh Capitals

    Established: 1998
    Championships: 0
    Home venue: Murrayfield Ice Rink (cap. 4,800)
    Homepage: http://www.edinburgh-capitals.com/
    Last season: 10th, missed play-offs

    Head coach: Richard Hartmann
    Assistant coach: Jock Hay

    Goalkeepers
    • Tomáš Hiadlovskı

    Defenders
    • Marcel Petran (new. Peterborough Phantoms - GBR/EPIHL)
    • James Wallace (new, Solway Sharks - GBR/NIHL)

    Forwards
    • Greg Collins (new, HYS The Hague - NED/ERD)
    • Richard Hartmann
    • René Jarolin (new, MsHK Žilina - SVK/EXT)
    • Daniel Näslund (new, Villard-de-Lans - FRA/LM)
    • Dennis Rix (new, Michigan Tech - USA/NCAA)
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    Fife Flyers

    Established: 1938
    Championships: 29
    11x Scottish Cup: 1985, 1994, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010
    8x Scottish Champions: 1940, 1949, 1959, 1964, 1991, 1996, 2006, 2007
    6x Autumn Cup: 1950, 1972, 1975, 1976, 2005, 2008
    2x Celtic League Champions: 2009, 2010
    2x Celtic Cup: 2009, 2010
    Home venue: Fife Ice Arena (cap. 4,280)
    Homepage: http://www.fifeflyers.co.uk/
    Last season: 7th, lost in Semi-finals to Belfast Giants, lost 3rd place to Braehead Clan

    Head coach: Todd Dutiaume
    Assistant coach: Danny Stewart

    Goalkeepers
    • Blair Daly
    • Kevin Regan

    Defenders
    • Kyle Haines
    • Kyle Horne
    • Chris Wands

    Forwards
    • Allan Anderson
    • Bobby Chaumont
    • Jordan Fulton
    • Stephen Gunn
    • Nedeljko Lukačević
    • Josh Scoon
    • Danny Stewart
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    Hull Stingrays

    Established: 2003
    Championships: 0
    Home venue: Hull Arena (cap. 3,000)
    Homepage: http://www.hullstingrays.net/
    Last season: 8th, lost in Quarter-finals 3:7 on Aggregate to Belfast Giants

    Head coach: Omar Pacha
    Assistant coach: Carl Lauzon

    Goalkeepers
    • David Brown (new, Wichita Thunder - USA/CHL)

    Defenders
    • Jamie Chilcott
    • Omar Pacha
    • Yan Turcotte (new, Strasbourg - FRA/LM)

    Forwards
    • Matthew Davies
    • Eric Galbraith (new, Mount Royal University - CAN/CIS)
    • Zach Hervato (new, Neuilly-sur-Marne - FRA/Div.1)
    • Matt Larke (new, Tulsa Oilers - USA/CHL)
    • Carl Lauzon
    • Jordan Mayer (new, Quad City Mallards - USA/CHL)
    • Dominic Osman (new, Huntsville Havoc - USA/SPHL)
    • Cory Tanaka (new, Saint Mary’s University - CAN/CIS)
    • Samuel Towner
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    Nottingham Panthers

    Established: 1946
    Championships: 22
    7x Challenge Cup: 2004, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
    6x Autumn Cup: 1956, 1987, 1992, 1995, 1997, 1999
    5x British Champions: 1989, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013
    4x British League Champions: 1951, 1954, 1956, 2013
    Home venue: National Ice Centre (cap. 8,000)
    Homepage: http://www.panthers.co.uk/
    Last season: 4th, lost in Quarter-finals 1:9 on Aggregate to Braehead Clan

    Head coach: Corey Neilson
    Assistant coach: Rick Strachan

    Goalkeepers
    • Dan Green
    • Craig Kowalski

    Defenders
    • Stephen Lee
    • Evan Mosey (new, Herentals HYC - BEL/ERD)
    • Thomas Norton
    • Sam Oakford (new, Bracknell Bees - GBR/EPIHL)
    • Bryan Schmidt (new, Storhamar Dragons - NOR/GETL)
    • Steve Ward (new, Brampton Beast - CAN/CHL)
    • Cody Wild (new. Orlando Solar Bears - USA/ECHL)

    Forwards
    • Brandon Benedict
    • Oliver Betteridge
    • Jonathan Boxill
    • David Clarke
    • Robert Farmer
    • Bruce Graham (new, Allen Americans - USA/CHL)
    • Chris Higgins (new, Belfast Giants - GBR/EIHL)
    • Greg Jacina
    • Robert Lachowicz
    • Maxime Langelier-Parent (new, Syracuse Crunch - USA/AHL)
    • Chris Lawrence (new, Kalamazoo Wings - USA/ECHL)
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    Sheffield Steelers

    Established: 1991
    Championships: 22
    9x British Champions: 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2014
    7x British League Champions: 1995, 1996, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2011
    4x Challenge Cup: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003
    2x Autumn Cup: 1996, 2001
    Home venue: Motorpoint Arena Sheffield (cap. 13,500)
    Homepage: http://www.sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/
    Last season: 2nd, won in Finals over Belfast Giants

    Head coach: Gerad Adams
    Assistant coach: Neil Abel

    Goalkeepers
    • Frank Doyle

    Defenders
    • Gord Baldwin
    • Dustin Kohn
    • Rod Sarich (new, Did not play)
    • Mark Thomas

    Forwards
    • Robert Dowd
    • Luke Ferrara (new, Peterborough Phantoms - GBR/EPIHL)
    • Jason Hewitt
    • Philip Hill
    • Jay Latulippe (new, Kristianstads IK - SWE/Div.1)
    • Jonathan Phillips
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    Before I start doing club Championships, I want you guys opinion on how to list them and which Cups are most important to the league.

    How I was going to do it is based on regular season, you guys made it clear this is very important and this is who gets to attend European competition. So I would list them as British Champions so I dont have to go through every league name. This is good way to list them, no offence towards the Scots, Welsh or Irish?

    Should I include Play-off winners or not that important? What about Cups, I was going to include Challenge plus European if anybody has them. I quickly looked up and see there was Autumn Cup, 20/20 knock-out and British knock-out, these have/had any importance?

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    Technically, the British Champions are the winners of the playoffs and not the league. The winner of the top flight league are referred to as the British league champions.

    20/20 knock-out and British knock-out were minor trophies. The Autumn Cup was a major trophy and has had many names because it was always named after the sponsor (B&H Cup and Norwich Union Cup, for example).

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    The general consensus among the teams and the fans is that the regular season title is by far the most important, followed by the playoffs and then the challenge cup

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    Ok, thank you very much, will include League, Play-off, Challenge and whatever name the Autumn Cup was going by.

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    Todd Kelman is announced as new General Manager for Cardiff Devils after he resigned from his position with Belfast. The move comes from the sale of Cardiff from Paul Regan to Steve King for an undisclosed amount.

    According to WalesOnline, the decision on head coach Dave Whistle should be made shortly after while they make comments the clubs limited budget will be raised with King takeover. The club next season is set to move into their new 3,000 seat Ice Arena Wales.

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/i...devils-7264277

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    I'm glad someone else is doing this this season...

    I didn't have time at all last year to keep the thread updated.

    Hopefully, once the Devils get a new rink the Newcastle Vipers can get Cardiff's tent. That had been rumoured for years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    Hopefully, once the Devils get a new rink the Newcastle Vipers can get Cardiff's tent. That had been rumoured for years.
    It's going to Gosport. Deal was done a couple of years ago.

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    Is there anything about this online?


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    Calendar has been announced, the Conferences will remain the same as last season with four home and away matches in Conference with two home and away with everybody from the other Conference for 52 matches.

    The Challenge Cup Finals will be hosted by Sheffield, with the Groups of this year being..
    Group A: Belfast, Braehead, Dundee, Edinburgh and Fife
    Group B: Cardiff, Coventry, Hull, Nottingham and Sheffield

    The play-off Finals will once again be hosted by Nottingham, both the Challenge Cup and play-offs will follow the same format as last season.

    With that, we begin the season on 5.September when the defending Champions Belfast Giants head up to Scotland for both a league and Challenge Cup matches with Dundee and then Braehead. They get to return for the first time on 12.September when they welcome Edinburgh to town. The play-off Champions Sheffield get to open up on home ice when they welcome Dundee on the 6th.

    http://www.eliteleague.co.uk/fixtures-s12347

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    Is there anything about this online?
    Not that I'm aware of. But, we got told this when we were asking about bringing Cardiff's rink to Bristol. Planet Ice own both the BBT and Gosport's current rink.

    That said, I'm far from convinced that Cardiff's new rink is going to happy any time soon. So, I suspect that this is academic anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Not that I'm aware of. But, we got told this when we were asking about bringing Cardiff's rink to Bristol. Planet Ice own both the BBT and Gosport's current rink.

    That said, I'm far from convinced that Cardiff's new rink is going to happy any time soon. So, I suspect that this is academic anyway.

    Graham.
    When I was in Cardiff we were told there was a good possibility it could be moved to Newcastle. Obviously, they said "possibility", but it was from a reliable source.

    There's too many rumours


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    ICING & END-ZONE SIZES

    The Rapid Solicitors Elite League will introduce a couple of rule changes, which were implemented by the IIHF at their annual Congress this summer.

    Hybrid icing
    Hybrid icing will now be used in all matches instead of touch icing. In summary, play is stopped immediately if the player on the opposing team reaches the face-off dot first, instead of skating all the way across the goalline to touch the puck.

    This type of icing is intended to reduce the number of collisions along the boards during touch icing, but still allowing the team that iced the puck to get to it first to wave off the icing.

    In instances where the puck is shot around the end boards, travels down the ice and comes out the other end, the linesman has to determine who would have touched the puck first.

    If it's the defending player, he calls an automatic icing but if it's the attacking player he lets the play continue.

    The new icing rule will be in force from the upcoming 2014-15 season.

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    Surely this change in ice size will cause some issues for some teams?
    Dinamo Riga, Manchester Storm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    Surely this change in ice size will cause some issues for some teams?
    Since not all the clubs have to make the changes this season, it will be interesting to see which clubs want to take advantage of the extra space and what clubs will just wait it out and re-tool for next season when they are forced to change. Already a goalkeeper in the Czech league (pretty sure it was Kantor) complain about it, see what players opinions about it here.

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    What change in ice size?
    From what I can tell, it's just a repositioning of the lines on the ice?

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    As for Kantor, he should be used to it. He played in North America already, so he knows these zone dimensions.

    It'll allow for more creative play, which is not in any way a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    What change in ice size?
    From what I can tell, it's just a repositioning of the lines on the ice?
    From what I understand the boards are being moved...

    Here's a picture from the Belfast Giants:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    When I was in Cardiff we were told there was a good possibility it could be moved to Newcastle. Obviously, they said "possibility", but it was from a reliable source.

    There's too many rumours
    Our source was a director at Planet Ice, operator of both the Cardiff and Gosport rinks.

    That said, it was about 18 months ago and there is now a plan to refurbish Gosport which would make me think there is a lack of confidence that the BBT is coming out of Cardiff any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    From what I understand the boards are being moved...
    Nothing to do with the boards. Under previous rules, the blue line was 21.33 metres from the end board. They are now 22.86 to make the blue zone larger in the hope that it encourages more offence. So, it's just a case of painting the line in the new place when the ice is next lifted in each rink.

    There is a rule change from the IIHF that changes the allowed dimensions of the ice surface to be 26-30 x 60 metres (was 29-30 x 60-61 metres). But, the UK has never adopted this IIHF rule (many of the North American ice size, such as Cardiff, don't meet it) and has not plans to adopt the change. Besides, the only rinks that would have a problem with the rule change are those that are 61 metres long. From memory, the only rink in the UK that is 61 metres long is Murrayfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Nothing to do with the boards...

    Why is there a white line along the boards? It seems to be the side boards rather than behind the net.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Our source was a director at Planet Ice, operator of both the Cardiff and Gosport rinks.

    That said, it was about 18 months ago and there is now a plan to refurbish Gosport which would make me think there is a lack of confidence that the BBT is coming out of Cardiff any time soon.

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    Okay, your source is a tad more reliable than mine. Although my source was from Devils staff. I suppose the director will know more than the Devils staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    Why is there a white line along the boards? It seems to be the side boards rather than behind the net.
    I'd turn that question around. Why would there be a very neat white line underneath where boards that were boards went into the concrete? If those boards have been moved, there is no sign where the fixing points went into concrete so it must have been completely tidied up. Why would you put a white line down to show where they used to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    Okay, your source is a tad more reliable than mine. Although my source was from Devils staff. I suppose the director will know more than the Devils staff.
    Never rely on team staff when asking about a rink. Teams are only tenants. They always assume that they know everything about the building's plans, but ultimately why would the landlord want to keep them involved in key business decisions that could effect their ability to maximise profit out of the tenant?

    In the case of Bristol, the rink operator knew 18 months before we did that the building was going to be demolished. In that time, they allowed our team to spend thousands of pounds doing up our part of the building because letting us know the building's future risked us not taking on as much ice time or having as many fans spending money in the bar and cafe.

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    I thought it was a white line to mark where the boards were going to be moved to... I must be going crazy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Never rely on team staff when asking about a rink. Teams are only tenants. They always assume that they know everything about the building's plans, but ultimately why would the landlord want to keep them involved in key business decisions that could effect their ability to maximise profit out of the tenant?

    In the case of Bristol, the rink operator knew 18 months before we did that the building was going to be demolished. In that time, they allowed our team to spend thousands of pounds doing up our part of the building because letting us know the building's future risked us not taking on as much ice time or having as many fans spending money in the bar and cafe.

    Graham.
    That's ruined all hopes that the Vipers would get the tent. 3 years without watching pro hockey is killing me.


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    Cardiff Devils launch their own shuttle bus service taking fans from the City Centre to the rink and back.

    http://www.cardiffdevils.com/news/de...e-bus-service/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    Cardiff Devils launch their own shuttle bus service taking fans from the City Centre to the rink and back.

    http://www.cardiffdevils.com/news/de...e-bus-service/

    Good idea


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    Good idea
    I think so too, £3 return ticket isn't a bad price. They mentioned that parking is a problem so yeah nice move!
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    Apologies for deviating from the subject. What is the expectation about a London ( Wembley ? ) team starting up in a year's time ? Any chance ? Geoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    Apologies for deviating from the subject. What is the expectation about a London ( Wembley ? ) team starting up in a year's time ? Any chance ? Geoff
    Good point, it was mentioned and would be interesting to see another London based team try and be succesful again! Graham would probably be the man with any answers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    Good point, it was mentioned and would be interesting to see another London based team try and be succesful again! Graham would probably be the man with any answers...
    There was a rumour that the Racers were making a come back.. I'm sure that has already been mentioned and discussed on this forum somewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    There was a rumour that the Racers were making a come back.. I'm sure that has already been mentioned and discussed on this forum somewhere.
    As in the Racers playing in the National Leagues? If so we all know how that'd go... not very well :D Bring back the London Knights get some rich Russian to fund them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    Apologies for deviating from the subject.
    No need to apologise. There's quite a lot of deviating in this thread just now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    Graham would probably be the man with any answers...
    The ice plant is being put into Wembley Arena this winter and is expected to be ready in time for the 2015-16 season. Neil Black (Nottingham, Braehead) is part of a consortium who have been awarded a London franchise and the league are still making noises about that team being in place for season after this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    There was a rumour that the Racers were making a come back.. I'm sure that has already been mentioned and discussed on this forum somewhere.
    The London Racers play in NIHL2S. They had a strong first season at that level last season, although I suspect that they will admit that the level was higher than they anticipated. But, they've got a year's experience behind them and I would expect to see them be promoted within three years. Long term, their ambitions are for EPL and the building that they plan in (Ally Pally) would be a good EPL venue. But, none of the ice rinks in London are suitable for anything higher than EPL. If London wants an EIHL team, it will have to play out of one of it's arenas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    The London Racers play in NIHL2S. They had a strong first season at that level last season, although I suspect that they will admit that the level was higher than they anticipated. But, they've got a year's experience behind them and I would expect to see them be promoted within three years. Long term, their ambitions are for EPL and the building that they plan in (Ally Pally) would be a good EPL venue. But, none of the ice rinks in London are suitable for anything higher than EPL. If London wants an EIHL team, it will have to play out of one of it's arenas.

    Graham.
    Interesting. If London (Wembley) EIHL get the go ahead and the Racers make their way to the EPL, you have a nice partnership in the making for both teams. Maybe finally making hockey in the Capital a little more sustainable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    As in the Racers playing in the National Leagues? If so we all know how that'd go... not very well :D Bring back the London Knights get some rich Russian to fund them!
    From what I remember from 2003 (I think it was), the Bracknell Bees were the team to watch. At the time they were in the highest league in the country as well.

    I always remember my first ever Vipers away game was to Bracknell for some competition, and I think Bracknell won, and I still have the medals I got off the players haha.

    But now, I don't think they are anything special.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    From what I remember from 2003 (I think it was), the Bracknell Bees were the team to watch. At the time they were in the highest league in the country as well.

    I always remember my first ever Vipers away game was to Bracknell for some competition, and I think Bracknell won, and I still have the medals I got off the players haha.

    But now, I don't think they are anything special.
    I always remember Branknell as being some kind of special team but as you say now they are not so fierce or speacial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    Interesting. If London (Wembley) EIHL get the go ahead and the Racers make their way to the EPL, you have a nice partnership in the making for both teams. Maybe finally making hockey in the Capital a little more sustainable
    Not so sure. I think if Streatham moved to the EPL, there would be more in that argument. But, Haringey and Wembley are not that far apart (about 10 miles). I think they would both be fighting for the same fan base and Racers being a lower level team will always struggle in that environment. At least with Streatham being south of the river, you'd have a better chance of the lower league team being able to find its own fan base.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viperdan View Post
    From what I remember from 2003 (I think it was), the Bracknell Bees were the team to watch. At the time they were in the highest league in the country as well.

    I always remember my first ever Vipers away game was to Bracknell for some competition, and I think Bracknell won, and I still have the medals I got off the players haha.

    But now, I don't think they are anything special.
    Yeah, but Bracknell were a team being completely bankrolled by John Nike at that time. They had one of the highest budgets in the country, if not the highest, but that was purely based upon Nike funding an ego rather than a genuine commercial ability of the club.

    As soon as he decided that he was not going to fund the team any more (a decision largely driven by his tax conviction that banned him from running a sports team for 10 years), they were always going to drop to a level that better reflected their genuine commercial ability. Unfortunately, as is usually the case when a team has been over achieving through money being pumped in by a sugar daddy, the immediate lack of success has an even larger negative effect on the club and your commercial ability actually drops further than it is theoretically capable of.

    Look at the Thames Valley Tigers basketball team. He pulled all funding out of that team at the same time, and they effectively folded. A fan led consortium trying to save their team were only successful in getting a replacement team set up in Guildford instead.

    Sugar daddies are always bad for the long-term future of any team or sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    If London wants an EIHL team, it will have to play out of one of it's arenas.

    Graham.
    There isn't any room for an EIHL team at the moment...

    A few years before the Vipers folded I remember the league announced that they wanted a 6 team league. They obviously realised a 6 team league would destroy the league so stuck with 10.

    I cant see them expanding the league any more, although they need to make their minds up what they want.


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