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Thread: Olympic Qualification Preliminary Round 2 (11-14 February 2016) GROUP H - Budapest

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    Olympics Olympic Qualification Preliminary Round 2 (11-14 February 2016) GROUP H - Budapest

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    Lithuania
    Estonia


    Fixtures:
    Febr. 11: 16:00 Poland - Estonia
    19:30 Hungary - Lithuania

    Febr. 12: 14:30 Poland - Lithuania
    18:00 Hungary - Lithuania

    Febr. 14: 14:30 Estonia - Lithuania
    18:00 Hungary - Poland

    Papp László Budapest Sportaréna, capacity: 12,500


    All game of Hungary are sold out since December.
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    Estonia

    Goalies
    29 Šumihhin Roman Tallinn Panter 09.06.1991
    1 Koitmaa Villem-Henrik Milton Keynes Thunder GBR-3 03.10.1990

    Defencemen
    25 Švarőgin Filip Narva PSK 28.01.1987
    14 Levkovitš Anton Tallinn Panter 25.04.1983
    2 Rőbushkin Maksim Kohtla-Järve Viru Sputnik 14.06.1985
    3 Lukin Andrei Kohtla-Järve Viru Sputnik 26.02.1989
    4 Auksi Michael Mahkwa Brockton Generals CAN GTHLA 18.12.1981
    6 Kerna Silver Jukurit Mikkeli U20 FIN-2 13.08.1994
    5 Minin Artjom Porvoo Hunters FIN-3 22.09.1990

    Forvarts
    23 Vinogradov Dmitri Tallinn Viking 15.09.1996
    7 Fedoruk Artur Tallinn Panter 04.01.1992
    21 Sorokin Jaanus Tallinn Panter 09.02.1986
    20 Vőrang Mihkel Tallinn Panter 10.03.1990
    17 Kuznetsov Aleksander Narva PSK 29.01.1985
    9 Titarenko Vassili Kohtla-Järve Viru Sputnik 13.12.1985
    22 Makrov Andrei Telford Tigers GBR-2 14.12.1979
    27 Konőšev Deniss Spĺnga IS SWE-4 24.03.1983
    24 Petrov Alexander Valpellice ITA-1 25.05.1983
    8 Rooba Robert Kokkolan Hermes FIN-2 02.09.1993
    26 Lukats Jan Bad Aibling EHC GER-5 02.03.1991
    15 Fursa Daniil Riga Mogo LAT-1 06.01.1997
    19 Vasjonkin Vadim Boston Jr. Bruins USA USPHL 30.04.1996


    Petrov is back in the NT, first time since 2012. No Lahesalu, Missenjov, Embrich, Russ or the guys from Varberg, hovewer. So it's not the best Estonian team what could be put on ice - I predict them for the 4th place.
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    Lithuania

    Goalies
    Armalis Mantas 29 G 1992.09.06 Djurgarden, SWE
    Pavliukov Artur 30 G 1997.02.14 Hockey Punks

    Defencemen
    Jasinevičius Jaunius 2 D 1996.07.09 20 Harnosand, SWE
    Kieras Mindaugas 3 D 1980.06.07 36 Hockey Punks
    Vėželis Justinas 5 D 1988.08.26 28 Energija Elektrenai
    Katulis Artūras 6 D 1981.08.05 35 Juodupe
    Čypas Domantas 24 D 1996.03.24 20 Wichita Falls, USA
    Aliukonis Rolandas 25 D 1981.05.25 35 Energija Elektrenai

    Forvarts

    Nomanovas Danielius 7 F 1995.09.20 21 Zemgale, LV
    Četvertak Ilja 8 F 1997.07.07 19 Zemgale, LV
    Krakauskas Emilijus 9 F 1997.07.11 19 EHC Biel 20, SUI
    Fiščevas Aimas 10 F 1994.02.09 22 Energija Elektrenai
    Verenis Povilas 12 F 1990.07.29 26 Energija Elektrenai
    Čižas Ugnius 13 F 1995.08.31 21 Energija Elektrenai
    Rybakov Edgar 14 F 1991.01.05 25 Lida, BEL
    Bosas Arnoldas 15 F 1990.08.28 26 Sheffield St, GB
    Gintautas Paulius 16 F 1995.05.10 21 IK Comet, NOR
    Bogdziul Daniel 17 F 1994.02.24 22 Hasle, NOR
    Kumeliauskas Donatas 19 F 1987.07.13 29 ECC Preussen, GER 3
    Baltrukonis Mauras 21 F 1994.05.22 22 Energija Elektrenai
    Kulevičius Dovydas 22 F 1982.09.04 34 Energija Elektrenai
    Jagelavičius Vytautas 23 F 1988.11.14 28 Energija Elektrenai

    A solid Lithuanian team. No Bendzius from Jessenice, Tadas Kumeliauskas - since 2010 - is missing, too, and Nerijus Aliskauskas from the VHL also missing (Zubrus indeed is out due to NHL). I see not too much hope for them to the silver. They are better then Estonia, but not close to Poland or Hungary.
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    Hungary

    Kapusok:
    Goalies
    Hetényi Zoltán 1988 Fehérvár
    Rajna Miklós 1991 Fehérvár

    Deffencemen
    Gőz Balázs 1992 Miskolc
    Kiss Dániel 1991 UTE
    Mestyán István 1989 MAC
    Pozsgai Tamás 1988 MAC
    Stipsicz Bence 1997 MAC
    Szirányi Bence 1988 Fehérvár
    Vas Márton 1980 Fassa (ITA)

    Forvarts
    Banham Frank 1975 Fehérvár
    Bartalis István 1990 Fehérvár
    Benk András 1987 Fehérvár
    Galló Vilmos 1996 Linköping (SWE)
    Hári János 1992 Leksand (SWE-2.)
    Kovács Csaba 1984 Fehérvár
    Kóger Dániel 1989 Fehérvár
    Nagy Gergő 1989 Fehérvár
    Nagy Krisztián 1994 MAC
    Sarauer Andrew 1984 Fehérvár
    Sofron István 1988 Klagenfurt (AUT)
    Vas János 1984 Slavia Praha (CZE-2.)
    Vincze Péter 1995 Fehérvár

    Almost the best Hungarian team what can be put on ice right now - definietly the favourites of the tournament. Major missing players are Sebők from KalPa and Magosi from Briancon - but still the best team right there.
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    Poland

    Goalies

    G Kamil Kosowski 17.02.1987
    G Przemyslaw Odrobny 21.10.1985

    Defencemen
    D Mateusz Bryk 24.08.1989
    D Pawel Dronia 30.06.1989
    D Michal Kotlorz 12.05.1987
    D Maciej Kruczek 26.01.1988
    D Bartlomiej Pociecha 22.03.1992
    D Mateusz Rompkowski 08.05.1986
    D Patryk Wajda 20.05.1988
    D/F Marcin Kolusz 18.01.1985

    Forvarts
    F Adam Baginski 17.03.1980
    F Mateusz Bepierszcz 19.05.1991
    F Aron Chmielewski 09.10.1991
    F Krystian Dziubinski 28.05.1988
    F Radoslaw Galant 10.11.1990
    F Kacper Guzik 06.04.1993
    F Mikolaj Lopuski 24.12.1985
    F Tomasz Malasinski 23.08.1986
    F Grzegorz Pasiut 07.05.1987
    F Maciej Urbanowicz 12.07.1986
    F Patryk Wronka 28.08.1995
    F Krzysztof Zapala 11.02.1982

    Major missing player is Adam Borzeczki. Even so, a good roster, but I will be surprise if Hungary not beat them - even if I think that game will be a close one.
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    Hungary to win it, although I wouldn't be suprised if Poland suprises them.

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    Seams like http://www.mediaklikk.hu/m4-elo will stream all the games. They will at least stream today's games.

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    First day results

    Poland - Estonia 6 - 2 ( 3 - 0 , 2 - 1 , 1 - 1 )
    An easy winn for Poland, and quite a boring game at all. At the first period, Poland quickly decided the game, and After that, nor the Estonians nor Poland wanted more serious game. Petrov returned to the NT with a goal - that was probably the only positive thing for the Estonians at that night.

    Lithuania - Hungary 0 - 4 ( 0 - 1 , 0 - 1 , 0 - 2 )
    A solid Hungarian victory. First third was quite balanced, and Lithuania had some dangerous actions, but in the second period, Hungary slowly overpowered Lithuania. At the third, it seemed that the Lithuanians waiting only for the final signall, and hoping that not get a rough beating. Vilmos Galló, on his debut in the NT, scored the first goal - congrats to him. Also, Armalis performed well, without him, the score would be nastier.

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    Beside the result of 7-1 against Hungaria, Estonia tonight played just fine hockey. They were good against strong Hungary
    A-light-in-the-dark: Sofia Bulgaria, Skopje Macedonia, Sarajevo & Pristina :)

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    Second day results

    Poland - Lithuania 9 - 1 ( 2 - 0 , 5 - 0 , 2 - 1 )
    A low level game. In the first period, Lithuania put out a good game, but in the second, they collapsed, guess they were tired after the game against Hungary or gave it up mentally after they saw that they can't win. Anyway, there is no such a huge gap petween these two teams, and telling the truh, before the game I speculated a tough game, probably an OT win for Poland.


    Hungary - Estonia 7 - 1 ( 2 - 0 , 2 - 1 , 3 - 0 )
    In spite of the result, this was a really entertaining game, as it was mentioned abowe. Unlike Lithuania, Estonia not gave up the game even when the result was quite depressive from their view. The Makrov-Rooba-Petrov trio is really a good one, sometimes only goalie Hetényi could stop them. Even if they got tired to the third period, their spirit was still good - but earned lot of penalties. Hungary played well - better than two days ago I think. Better teamwork and less mistakes - the only major mistake was before the goal. Vilmos Galló scored another goal. If our boys play like this against Poland, then Riga awaits them.

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    Thanks for the coverage MDani! Looks like the Hungary-Poland game will be a worthy conclusion to the tournament.

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    I cant wait for derby Estonia - Lithuania. I really love these two countries and their hockey. It will be very tight and interesting game. This is classic baltic derby

    For Hungary - Poland, oh men...also very hard to predict
    A-light-in-the-dark: Sofia Bulgaria, Skopje Macedonia, Sarajevo & Pristina :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDani View Post
    Second day results

    Poland - Lithuania 9 - 1 ( 2 - 0 , 5 - 0 , 2 - 1 )
    A low level game. In the first period, Lithuania put out a good game, but in the second, they collapsed, guess they were tired after the game against Hungary or gave it up mentally after they saw that they can't win. Anyway, there is no such a huge gap petween these two teams, and telling the truh, before the game I speculated a tough game, probably an OT win for Poland.


    Hungary - Estonia 7 - 1 ( 2 - 0 , 2 - 1 , 3 - 0 )
    In spite of the result, this was a really entertaining game, as it was mentioned abowe. Unlike Lithuania, Estonia not gave up the game even when the result was quite depressive from their view. The Makrov-Rooba-Petrov trio is really a good one, sometimes only goalie Hetényi could stop them. Even if they got tired to the third period, their spirit was still good - but earned lot of penalties. Hungary played well - better than two days ago I think. Better teamwork and less mistakes - the only major mistake was before the goal. Vilmos Galló scored another goal. If our boys play like this against Poland, then Riga awaits them.
    Your assessment of every Poland game as boring and low level is quite amusing, I know you are biased and all but still. Let's hope your team doesn't come into tomorrow's game with your thinking, or they will lose bad.

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    For me I'm glad MDani writes down his impressions about the games. You can criticize his report, sure. But it's up to you to write your own perspective. Until that happens I'm thankful for his statements.

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    Pre-game light show

    This is the pre-game light show in the Arena from Freelusion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LegiaNR1 View Post
    Your assessment of every Poland game as boring and low level is quite amusing, I know you are biased and all but still. Let's hope your team doesn't come into tomorrow's game with your thinking, or they will lose bad.
    I didn't mean to hurt Polish fans or their team. But you shall admit that those games for me, as a neutral, were quite boring - as the third period of the Hungary-Estonia or the last minutes of Hungary - Lithuania. It's not because Poland is a bad team, but because their opponents simply didn't really wanted to play after a time - and in the case of Lithuania, it was the firt minutes of the second period, as I saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDani View Post
    I didn't mean to hurt Polish fans or their team. But you shall admit that those games for me, as a neutral, were quite boring - as the third period of the Hungary-Estonia or the last minutes of Hungary - Lithuania. It's not because Poland is a bad team, but because their opponents simply didn't really wanted to play after a time - and in the case of Lithuania, it was the firt minutes of the second period, as I saw.
    What I'm saying is your style of evaluation or impression of the level of games is bias. Those games were obviously boring to you because you are Hungarian, so naturally any games involving Hungary you will find more exciting. This has nothing to do w/ the level of play, and you can't factor in your emotional involvement into the the technical evaluation of the game.

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    Totaly deserved win from Poland. Fantastic second part of the game by them. I am really disapointed with Hungarian team, expecting a lot more from them( just first period was good level). This is not level for elite division. This is second time in a row that they like favorite without last qualification round for olimpics.
    A-light-in-the-dark: Sofia Bulgaria, Skopje Macedonia, Sarajevo & Pristina :)

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    The two best game of the whole weekend remained for the last day - three tams showed a much better game than before, and one performed so down to the expectations that I guess there was some shouting at the dressing-room. But let's see the results.

    Estonia - Lithuania 4 - 1 ( 3 - 1 , 0 - 0 , 1 - 0 )
    It was a game of the two, already eleminated teams, but not a bad game at all. Estonia guess decided that they will have a nice faravell, while Lithuania seemed depressed and less motivated. Makrov quickly scored, followed by a quick second goal. After that, Lithuania tried to play a better game and they managed to came back to 2-1, but after two minutes, Estonia scored it's third. Second period only brought a phisical and quite a low-level game compared to the first one, with lots of penalties. Especially the Lithuanian team had many unnecesary ones - int the Estonian or in the neutral zone, for example. This also happened with them at the third period, and they slowly run out of energy - and it's made the way for Makrov's second goal in a PP. After that, for some minutes Lithuania made some massive charges, but Estonia was more dangerous from contras. Koitmaa had a nice day in the net - making 55 saves, while Estonia had only 22 SoG.
    So in general, Estonia took a deserved victory, while Lithuania performed under the expectations. This game what they showed on the last two times will be not enough for a medal at the WC - actually, they could be happy if they not get relegated.

    Hungary- Poland
    0 - 1 SO ( 0 - 0 , 0 - 0 , 0 - 0 , 0 - 0 , 0 - 1 )
    Definietly the best game of the tournament. Both team performed on better level than before. Hungary had the best forward lines in this tournament, and it was showed in this game - especially in the second period. Hovewer, it's clear that Poland had both technically and physically stronger deffensemen, and also, one of the best goalies on this level. At the third period, in the same minute had both team a very close attempt - Hungarian shot missed only with an inch and Poland hit the post. Referees were not on the top, Polish players were at this period many times rough, without penlaty calls. Hungar got the major chance to win at the OT, because of a PP. But the shots were badly aimed, in spite that the pPP was well played, so the shoot-out came, and there Poland won.
    At all, after last year, Poland took it's revenge with a good game, and desired to move to the next round. For Hungary, in spite the good game, this will be not enough at April at St. Petersburg.
    For me, the after game "Polska-Polska" was a nice gesture from the Hungaryan crowd, and the Polish players really deserved this small celebration.

    In general, a good tournament, even if some of the games drowned in boredom thanks to the differences between the top- and the bottom-two teams. Hungary can be disappointed, but they played well, and guess they can learn and improwe from there. Poland is happy right now I guess - and they have the reason for it. Seems they have the good NT what their fans deserve, and they clearly have the chance to get promoted at Krakow in April. Estonia performed apove capacity and snatched the third place - a good motivation for them, and with this performance, they have a chance to avoid relegation at spring. Lithuania is the only team wich is a huge disappointment, with their roster and skils, both the huge negative goal-difference and the fourth place are a shame. The staff have to work on the team - aspecially on the mental level - to turn it into the next medal-wining performance.

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    Summary

    RkCountryGPWOTWOTLLGF:GAPTS
    1 Poaland 3 2 1 0 0 16:3 8
    2 Hungary 3 2 0 1 0 11:2 7
    3 Estonia 3 1 0 0 2 7:14 3
    4 Lithuania 3 0 0 0 3 2:17 0

    Poland is advanced to the next round of the Qualification.

    Tournament awards.
    Best goalkeeper: Miklós Rajna (HUN)
    Best defenceman: Pawel Dronia (POL)
    Best forwart:Andrew Sarauer (HUN)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fikret View Post
    Totaly deserved win from Poland. Fantastic second part of the game by them. I am really disapointed with Hungarian team, expecting a lot more from them( just first period was good level). This is not level for elite division. This is second time in a row that they like favorite without last qualification round for olimpics.
    It was a very tight game, HUN had more huge chances, but the players were not sharp enough. We played quite often against the Poles in the past some years, and although on the IIHF tournaments we were the better in te recent years, they beat us some time on EIHC tournaments or on friendlies. Who saw the match in Krakow can tell that that match also could have gone the other way. Everbody expected here a match with about the same odds (fifty-fifty), and the match itself (0-0 after overtime) justified these expectations.

    Anybody who thinks that Hungary is on the elite level, is wrong. Hungary have promoted to the elite in 2008 after 70 years and in 2015 after 7 years. It's a development process. The next step should be to develop to an elevator nation. Not every country can do what the Danes did, that after their first promotion they were never relegated.

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    Like most thought, it all came down to the final game on the final day of this tournament. Almost every POL-HUN game I can remember end with a very close result, especially those in IIHF tournaments but that can be expected since both teams are essentially on the same level.
    Personally I think Polish fans can learn a lot from the Hungarian fans, where it's evident hockey is becoming a bigger passion year by year, whereas in Poland it's a dying sport by most standards.
    I think Poland has basically no chance in advancing to the final Olympic tournament especially since Belarus, Slovenia and Denmark will be able to use their NHL based players (maybe w/ the exception of a few due to the World Cup). However playing against better teams only makes you better, so whatever the results are the experience will be vital especially for the younger players on the team.
    Poland should now focus on the WC in Katowice and build on this pre-Olympic qualifying victory, and if they show the same resolve and fighting spirit they can advance to the elite level.
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