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    The Turkmenistan national team is preparing in Belarus the international debut in an official competition, the Asian Winter Games, held in Sapporo, Japan, in February. During the training camp at the Olympic sports complex "Raubichi" in Minsk, Turkmenistan played two friendly games against local amateur teams, winning 18-1 against club Soyuz and 17-3 with Ice Soft. Besides the Asian Winter Games, Turkmenistan will partecipate at Asia Cup in April in Kuwait



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    [QUOTE=Davide;286319]The Turkmenistan national team is preparing in Belarus the international debut in an official competition, the Asian Winter Games, held in Sapporo, Japan, in February. During the training camp at the Olympic sports complex "Raubichi" in Minsk, Turkmenistan played two friendly games against local amateur teams, winning 18-1 against club Soyuz and 17-3 with Ice Soft. Besides the Asian Winter Games, Turkmenistan will partecipate at Asia Cup in April in Kuwait

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    Thanks, they should be the best prepared team at the AWG. The Asia Cup event will be Division 1 of the Challenge Cup of Asia, which is an IIHF event played under IIHF eligibility rules. Be interesting to see if Turkmenistan can field the same squad for both events.

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    Unfortunately it appears Bahrain has withdrawn from the tournament (I am not 100% sure, but its likely atp)

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    Massive news! The 2017 Asian Winter Games will be live streamed!

    I have no idea how they're doing this, if it is one multi-sport feed only, a sport-specific feed, or all events will be available. Still, huge props to the organisers for this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Massive news! The 2017 Asian Winter Games will be live streamed!

    I have no idea how they're doing this, if it is one multi-sport feed only, a sport-specific feed, or all events will be available. Still, huge props to the organisers for this!
    Yes, the website is being readied for the real action. No streaming until the 19th so the first day of hockey action is not included.

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    its 100% confirmed Bahrain are out of the men;s competition

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    What's your source ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    What's your source ?
    Directly from the OC, who tell me that this will be available on Monday on the website.

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    Looking forward to the start of the games on Saturday, although the website is still not set up for fixtures and results. Hope the scores are going to be updated promptly.

    Hoping for some good close games. Think the four new teams may be competitive as they seem to have prepared well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intoronto1125 View Post
    Directly from the OC, who tell me that this will be available on Monday on the website.
    Thanks.

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    No Bahrain game as expected but the Iran v Macau game has also 'disappeared', so perhaps Iran didn't make it after all.

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    GeoffH,

    strange, found this on the Iranian Instagram page:

    of course, translated by Google....

    اولين گل تاريخ هاكى روى يخ ايران
    تيم ملى هاكى روى يخ ايران در حاليكه نتوانست از نيمى از توان خود استفاده كند در اولين ديدار رسمى خود در برابر ماكائو ٧-١ شكست خورد. محمدرضا مهدويان اولين گل تاريخ هاكى روى يخ ايران را به ثمر رساند.

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    "The first goal in the history of ice hockey
    While Iran's national ice hockey team could be its own in the first half of his official visit to Macau was defeated 7-1. MR Mahdavian Iran scored the first goal on ice hockey."
    unquote

    Is the official game sheet "disappeared"??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Is the official game sheet "disappeared"??
    That may have happened for the first two or three games that are still shown. Initially the results pages had .pdf files for team lineups and game sheets but those have since been removed and none have been put up for the other games since.

    The results system they are using is complete rubbish. No shortcuts, going from one player to another requires returning to the main menu each time. Every Mongolian player is also listed as "Mongolian Association" but have varying birthdates.
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    at least, the Mongolian names are now on the official game sheet.... but the Iran Roster is still not to find under "entries"....
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    Looking at the fixtures it is Iran that has dropped out.

    Nice 5-4 win for Thailand over Mongolia which reverses recent CCoA form. Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei set to compete for Division 1. Division 2 playoff could be Kyrgyzstan v Turkmenistan although we haven't seen how strong Indonesia and Philippines are yet.

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    I have a theory on Iran !! Maybe they turned up with a short roster and are playing unofficial games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    Nice 5-4 win for Thailand over Mongolia which reverses recent CCoA form. Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei set to compete for Division 1. Division 2 playoff could be Kyrgyzstan v Turkmenistan although we haven't seen how strong Indonesia and Philippines are yet.
    Good effort on Mongolia that were down 4-1 and rallied back to tie it, only to allow the game winner by Teerasak Rattanachot 87 seconds later. Mongolia need more discipline. They racked up 18 PIMs and Thailand took advantage by potting 3 power play goals.
    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    I have a theory on Iran !! Maybe they turned up with a short roster and are playing unofficial games.
    That is an IIHF rule, would the OCA follow it as well?

    It is interesting that Iranian hockey players aren't on the athletes page but Bahrain is.
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    Sorry for the double postage stamps!

    Live streaming schedule is now out. Four channels available, one only doing highlights of the previous day. Not much hockey coverage sadly, all of it on channel 3. Times listed are Japanese local time.

    23 Feb, Thursday
    11:55 Women, Korea-China
    15:25 Women, Hong Kong-Kazakhstan
    18:55 Women, Thailand-Japan

    24 Feb, Friday
    15:25 Men Top, Kazakhstan-China

    25 Feb, Saturday
    11:55 Women, Kazakhstan-Thailand
    15:25 Women, Korea-Hong Kong
    18:55 Women, Japan-China

    26 Feb, Sunday
    09:00 Men Top, China-Korea
    12:25 Men Top, Kazakhstan-Japan
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    Day 1 Results

    Men Division I

    Singapore 1-12 Hong Kong
    03:03, 0-1, Chung Pan Justin Cheng (SMJ Tang)
    14:43, 0-2, Siu Him Kan (BYB Fung, T Leung)
    25:27, 0-3, Ka Ho Wong (unassisted, PP)
    27:40, 0-4, Ho Ming Herman Lui (CPJ Cheng, T Leung)
    31:51, 0-5, Bun Yu Bernard Fung (ACH Sham, SH Kan)
    37:51, 0-6, Howard Ho Yeung Yuen (unassisted)
    38:37, 1-6, Kin Yu Lam (JXG Lau)
    39:36, 1-7, Linus Lo Kim (CL Lau, CY Yeung)
    44:52, 1-8, Chung Pan Justin Cheng (SMJ Tang)
    46:37, 1-9, Yin Hay Yannick Wong (SH Kan)
    50:34, 1-10, Howard Ho Yeung Yuen (CPJ Cheng, HMH Lui, PP)
    56:18, 1-11, Chung Pan Justin Cheng (HMH Lui)
    59:43, 1-12, Chung Pan Justin Cheng (unassisted)

    Shots 16-45, PIM 12-4
    Khai Shene Eugene Chin 50:34, 25/35. Kenny Chin Ming Liang 9:26, 8/10.
    King Chi King Ho 52:30, 13/14. Emerson Kwokway Keung 7:30, 2/2.

    Chinese Taipei 10-3 United Arab Emirates
    08:12, 1-0, Chang Lin Yang (KH Chang)
    09:57, 2-0, Tzu Chieh Lin (IW Chiu, HH Yang)
    15:11, 3-0, Chang Hsing Yang (WT Chang)
    18:09, 4-0, Wei Ting Chang (CL Yang, KH Chang, PP)
    18:59, 4-1, Mohammed AlDhaheri (S AlNuaimi, PP2)
    29:11, 4-2, Saeed AlNuaimi (unassisted)
    31:56, 5-2, Kai Hsiang Chang (CL Yang, CH Yang)
    41:59, 6-2, Yu Tung Chao (YC Shen, HJ Lin)
    46:22, 6-3, Mohammed AlShamsi (K AlMahrooqi, PP)
    48:53, 7-3, Chang Hsing Yang (IW Chiu)
    50:54, 8-3, Yu Tung Chao (YC Shen, HJ Lin)
    54:01, 9-3, Chang Lin Yang (KH Chang, CH Yang)
    59:59, 10-3, Chang Hsing Yang (JT Chen)

    Shots 44-20, PIM 12-22
    Pang Keng Ting 60:00, 17/20.
    Khaled AlSuwaidi 20:00, 10/14. Ahmed AlDhaheri 40:00, 24/30

    Thailand 5-4 Mongolia
    05:09, 1-0, Kim Juhani Aarola (KE Kindborn)
    12:17, 1-1, Zorigt Batgerel (G Tamir, PP)
    25:01, 2-1, Ken Edvin Kindborn (P Kovitaya, T Rattanachot, PP)
    28:28, 3-1, Masato Kitayama (J Tengsakul, L Neimwan, PP)
    32:11, 4-1, Kim Juhani Aarola (T Chartsuwan, Chanchit Supadilokluk)
    32:19, 4-2, Dorjsuren Zolboo (M Batbold)
    44:23, 4-3, Ider Gerelt (Z Batgerel, G Tamir, PP)
    51:24, 4-4, Bold Erdenesukh (T Shinebayar, G Tamir)
    52:51, 5-4, Terrasak Rattanachot (KE Kindborn, KJ Aarola, PP)

    Shots 43-27, PIM 14-18
    Pattarapol Ungkulpattanasuk 60:00, 23/27.
    Bayarsaikhan Munkhbold 32:11, 18/22. Bazarvaani Baatarkhuu 27:49, 20/21.

    Men Division II

    Turkmenistan 9-2 Malaysia
    01:05, 1-0, Aleksandr Vahovskiy (A Gurbanov)
    12:05, 2-0, Aleksandr Vahovskiy (A Gurbanov)
    15:33, 3-0, Ishan Veleyev (unassisted)
    15:40, 4-0, Yakut Berdiyev (M Atayev)
    19:48, 5-0, Ezizmuhammet Akhmuhammedov (A Vahovskiy, A Gurbanov)
    27:47, 6-0, Yakut Berdiyev (M Kuliyev)
    29:45, 6-1, Ban Kin Loke (H Mohammad, EJ Yap, PP)
    30:52, 7-1, Maksat Atayev (Y Berdiyev, M Kuliyev)
    33:15, 8-1, Ishan Veleyev (D Soyunov)
    39:13, 9-1, Dovlat Soyunov (unassisted)
    44:51, 9-2, Ban Kin Loke (JY Moi)

    Shots 50-14, PIM 8-4
    Keremli Charyyev 60:00, 12/14
    Thien Ian Lee 60:00, 41/50

    Kuwait 0-5 Kyrgyzstan
    (Scoresheet not available as of 03:10 Japanese time. See Penalty Minutes for probable explanation for this.)

    Shots 19-48, PIM 60-71

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    While it's nice to see Thailand taking a win over Mongolia, they can say thanks to "foreigners" Aarola (2+1) and Kindborn (1+2) for it. the Swede contributes for 30% of the team's SOG while the Finn is rather efficient with 2 goals on 5 shots. Neimwan still going strong at 43 with 9 shots today.

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    Just talked to Iran's captain about what's going on.

    He said Kuwait's athletes sent a formal complaint to the organizers about the eligibility of the players. Essentially, they aren't allowed to play games for a medal, but instead get to play friendly games. But still, they aren't allowed to use those players for the friendly's, despite them not playing for anything worthwhile at that point. They had to use seven players from Macau and will be taking players from other teams in the other games too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenEllisNHL View Post
    Just talked to Iran's captain about what's going on.

    He said Kuwait's athletes sent a formal complaint to the organizers about the eligibility of the players. Essentially, they aren't allowed to play games for a medal, but instead get to play friendly games. But still, they aren't allowed to use those players for the friendly's, despite them not playing for anything worthwhile at that point. They had to use seven players from Macau and will be taking players from other teams in the other games too.
    Heh... from the NOC that's suspended... very strange that it was Kuwait that made a complaint. And that they only did it about Iran. Something highly suspicious about that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Heh... from the NOC that's suspended... very strange that it was Kuwait that made a complaint. And that they only did it about Iran. Something highly suspicious about that...
    That's what I'm thinking. He said the OAC president is from Kuwait which is why this may have gotten through.

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    Hi Trim,

    strange I found and printed the game sheet hours ago (swiss time)...
    https://info.sapporo2017.org/ddr/120...=1487450950184

    It should be the final edition, incl. all the penalties...

    It seem's, Kuwait has actual not many friends...
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    It's a shame that this drama is happening. At this level, the teams should be working to help grow the game overall. Kuwait truly isn't going to be on many team's Christmas card list from the sounds of it.

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    Sorry for a double post. This is coming from an Iranian team official.

    -all the players are citizens of Iran
    And they do have passport and birth certificate
    -all their parents are Iranian
    -they never played for any national team and except on of them even they never played in any professional league
    -every one got their olympic ID cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenEllisNHL View Post
    Just talked to Iran's captain about what's going on.

    He said Kuwait's athletes sent a formal complaint to the organizers about the eligibility of the players. Essentially, they aren't allowed to play games for a medal, but instead get to play friendly games. But still, they aren't allowed to use those players for the friendly's, despite them not playing for anything worthwhile at that point. They had to use seven players from Macau and will be taking players from other teams in the other games too.
    Strange news as there are no medals available for Division 2 anyway !
    For Iran to have had players banned the complaint must have been upheld. Just complaining isn't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenEllisNHL View Post
    It's a shame that this drama is happening. At this level, the teams should be working to help grow the game overall.
    Boom! Kuwait has been one of the programs known, at least in the past, to focus largely on their senior team and not really having a development program in place.

    Kuwait wouldn't have made friends with the Kyrgyz but I'm not going to point the finger at them. Both teams were taking lots of penalties before the fight erupted and we don't know what started it yet. The balance of shots were by Kyrgyzstan so it's possible one player got into the Kuwaiti goalie. It could also have been a big hit, an injury, or Kuwaiti frustration.

    Iran has a reason to chuckle at Kuwait. Two years ago, the Gulf state defeated Kyrgyzstan 9-3. Being the Asian Winter Games, Kyrgyzstan brought in some of their IIHF-ineligible dual nats (think Pavel Sazonov who has only played in the AWGs) but being shutout 5-0 is a shambles. I think its fair to say Kuwait distracted themselves with the Iran issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenEllisNHL View Post
    Sorry for a double post. This is coming from an Iranian team official.

    -all the players are citizens of Iran
    And they do have passport and birth certificate
    -all their parents are Iranian
    -they never played for any national team and except on of them even they never played in any professional league
    -every one got their olympic ID cards
    It was widely known that Iran had sent out a worldwide appeal for players before the AWG. They definitely would not meet IIHF eligibility rules but I thought they would be able to meet the much easier AWG / IOC rules. Clearly they didn't.

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    There was another non-IIHF tournament, nine years ago, where Kuwait didn't hold an issue with such players. Karim (HockeyAlgeria) was disappointed about a late agreement between Kuwait and the UAE. While nobody is saying Algeria or Morocco would have had IIHF-compliant rosters for the 2008 Arab Cup of Hockey, their players all held passports if memory serves correct. I have a gut feeling that Jan Brychta, among other Czechs, were not passport holders of Kuwait. They certainly weren't Arab anyway. Now I understand there is a massive difference between what is effectively a friendly tournament as opposed to the higher profile Asian Winter Games but surely we have a case here where the pot calls the kettle black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    There was another non-IIHF tournament, nine years ago, where Kuwait didn't hold an issue with such players. Karim (HockeyAlgeria) was disappointed about a late agreement between Kuwait and the UAE. While nobody is saying Algeria or Morocco would have had IIHF-compliant rosters for the 2008 Arab Cup of Hockey, their players all held passports if memory serves correct. I have a gut feeling that Jan Brychta, among other Czechs, were not passport holders of Kuwait. They certainly weren't Arab anyway. Now I understand there is a massive difference between what is effectively a friendly tournament as opposed to the higher profile Asian Winter Games but surely we have a case here where the pot calls the kettle black.
    At the Arab-Cup 2008, Kuwait played with eight (!) non Kuwait passholder (one from GER and seven from CZE) and the UAE with five (!) from BLR.....
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    The Sapporo 2017 website is really bad, but Thailand beat UAE 6-4.

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    Chinese Taipei defeated Hong Kong 5-4 SO and should win Division 1 now.

    Mongolia defeated Singapore , who must wish they were in Division 2 , 12-0.

    Geoff


    EDIT. AWG website shows 12-0 but 8-0 on the game sheet !! Take your pick !!

    And 6-0 according to the standings !!!
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    AWG website still not working well but looks like TKM 16 MAC 0 and MAS 13 INA 2 so far today.

    Plus TPE 11 SGP 1

    And KUW 6 QAT 2

    And a real surprise

    THA 8 HKG 2

    And finally

    UAE 8 MGL 5

    KGZ 10 PHI 5
    Last edited by GeoffH; Today at 16:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    AWG website still not working well but looks like TKM 16 MAC 0 and MAS 13 INA 2 so far today.

    Plus TPE 11 SGP 1

    And KUW 6 QAT 2

    And a real surprise

    THA 8 HKG 2

    And finally

    UAE 8 MGL 5

    KGZ 10 PHI 5

    oh well.....

    UAE vs MGL is 6:3, and not 8:5..... there must be a very stupd statistic system, they use....
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