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    KHL Kontinental Hockey League 2016/2017 (transfers, news, discussions)

    The off-season has started! The first transfers are already known

    Nikita Zaytsev CSKA -> Toronto Maple Leafs
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...-khl-1.3562714

    Alexandr Radulov, Mario Kempny, Vladimir Sobotka, Evgeny Dadonov, Vadim Shipachev plan to leave their clubs and go to the NHL

    According to rumors, Pavel Datsyuk is going to go to the SKA or Aк Bars

    Please fix topic Post :)

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    Ever since there's a Jokerit thread in the forums, I'll list the transfers by Jokerit here aswell:

    In:
    Ryan Zapolski
    Marko Anttila
    Masi Marjamäki
    Joonas Jalvanti
    Michael Keränen
    Sakari Salminen
    Oliver Lauridsen
    Rasmus Rissanen
    Mika Niemi
    Joey Hishon

    Out:
    Jere Sallinen
    Niklas Hagman
    Niko Kapanen
    Juhamatti Aaltonen
    Jani Rita
    Atte Ohtamaa
    Henrik Karlsson
    Saku Salminen
    Jere Sneck

    ?:
    Brandon Kozun
    Philip Larsen
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    The Kunlun Red Star, the team from Beijing, China, has officially been accepted for next season: http://en.khl.ru/news/2016/06/25/308623.html
    The final league composition will be announced next Thursday, 30 June.

    So the league now stretches from Slovakia all the way to China... interesting... Was there every a bigger distance in a professional sports league? There have been some minor league baseball teams in Hawaii, maybe that is even further away from the US mainland?

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    In football/soccer teams from overseas colonies are also taking part in the French national cup.
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    Super Rubgy has 18 teams total in Argentina, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Super Rubgy has 18 teams total in Argentina, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Africa.
    Wow, ok, I guess this is unbeatable. :) (Unless one counts Australia at the Eurovision Song Contest, but that can hardly be called a "professional sports league" )

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    So Radulov is not going to NHL via Twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deekster7 View Post
    So Radulov is not going to NHL via Twitter.
    He signed for Salavat Yulaev yes

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    Accurate information on Radulov will be the first of June :)

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    RedStar Kunlun sign their first player (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=7397)

    JANNE JALASVAARA from HC Sochi.
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    I guess Radulov had an NHL out clause in the contract he had just signed with Salavat, because he's going back to the NHL - just signed for one year with Montreal for U.S. $5.75 million.

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    Picked this up off of an English language Quebec website, talking about Radulov's past in the NHL where he was viewed as talented and hard working, but too much of a partier and not mature off of the ice:

    Now that he is older, married and a father, Radulov said on a conference call that he is more focused on hockey.

    “What happened in the past is in the past,” he said. “I made a mistake and I’m not trying to say it wasn’t my mistake.

    “Yes, I did it. But time goes by and you look back at what you should or should not have done. The NHL is the best league. I feel good and I really want to come back and play against the best players and try to win a Stanley Cup."

    I also read elsewhere that Radulov mentioned that he has matured and changed his life now that he is married and is a father. He said that "I live for my child now."

    Interesting for sure. I hope he is a big success in Montreal - except for when he plays the Rangers. I wish the Rangers had signed him.

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    Pavel Datsyuk (officially) signs a 2 yr, $7.6 million deal with SKA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    I seen news they are changing their logo?

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    No surprise that it mimics the national team jersey... boring! Noticed the logo on the jersey doesn't have the Chinese script on it. I guess they figured out they won't be getting any "home" fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87 View Post
    I seen news they are changing their logo?
    Yeah, I heard that as well. I dunno, I don't mind this one.
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    This season's schedule has been announced. Notable numbers are the 9th season of the league, 29 teams, 158 game nights, and 870 games. Season begins August 22 and ends February 18. Playoffs begin on the 21st.

    Barys @ Kunlun Red Star on Monday, 12 December, Muscovite Dynamo and Vityaz in Beijing January 9 and 10. I can make those games. Booyah!
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    According to Puck Daddy, the Great Britain Ice Hockey Federation has given permission to the KHL to expand to London:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/russia-...144902424.html
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    Updating the Kunlun Red Star Beijing roster of missed news stories since Gareth's post:

    Goaltenders: Andrei Makarov (Spartak, KHL), Tomi Karhunen (Tappara, Liiga)

    Defensemen: Tuuka Mantyla (Mesvescak, KHL), Anssi Salmela (Brynas, SHL), Alexander Mikulovich (Niagara, OHL), Dmitri Kostromitin (Vityaz, KHL), Janne Jalasvaara (Sochi, KHL)

    Forwards: Damien Fleury (Schwennigen, DEL), Martin Bakos (Liberec, CzExtraliga), Tomas Marcinko (Pardubice, CzExtraliga), Eetu Poysti (Jokerit, KHL), Igor Velichkin (Avtomobilist, KHL), Oleg Yashin (Yugra, KHL)

    Also included, seperately for various reasons, are the 13 liablilities known as the Chinese contingent/practice squad.

    GK: Shengrong Xia
    D: Chao Wen, Tianyi Guan, Tianyi Zhang, Yuhang Han
    F: Jiachang Bao, Tianxiang Xia, Xudong Xiang, Peng Ji, Ziyang Zhu, Hao Zhang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Updating the Kunlun Red Star Beijing roster of missed news stories since Gareth's post:

    Goaltenders: Andrei Makarov (Spartak, KHL), Tomi Karhunen (Tappara, Liiga)

    Defensemen: Tuuka Mantyla (Mesvescak, KHL), Anssi Salmela (Brynas, SHL), Alexander Mikulovich (Niagara, OHL), Dmitri Kostromitin (Vityaz, KHL), Janne Jalasvaara (Sochi, KHL)

    Forwards: Damien Fleury (Schwennigen, DEL), Martin Bakos (Liberec, CzExtraliga), Tomas Marcinko (Pardubice, CzExtraliga), Eetu Poysti (Jokerit, KHL), Igor Velichkin (Avtomobilist, KHL), Oleg Yashin (Yugra, KHL)

    Also included, seperately for various reasons, are the 13 liablilities known as the Chinese contingent/practice squad.

    GK: Shengrong Xia
    D: Chao Wen, Tianyi Guan, Tianyi Zhang, Yuhang Han
    F: Jiachang Bao, Tianxiang Xia, Xudong Xiang, Peng Ji, Ziyang Zhu, Hao Zhang.
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    Chinese? Hard to say. The 'hockey country expats' of Beijing may go to games - if possible - but it's hard for me to say about the Beijingers as they're from a properly international city. If it is anything like the people of my province, oh dear... They love a winner, for Red Star this means winning games. However! They're not terribly fond of "non-Chinese" things (sports, food, driving sensibly) where I live, so they wouldn't care to see a bunch of Finns, Russians, and a Frenchman doing well. So either they lose and nobody would watch or they play the foreigners heavily and nobody would watch. Beijing is way different from the centre of China so that lends itself to some hope.

    The coaches will know the Chinese players aren't up to scratch; they're not even up to scratch in the Asia League, nevermind the KHL. That is a job I am glad somebody else is doing because balancing that innate desire to win against a probable burden of playing the overwhelmed domestic guys to please management is unenviable. My prediction is that Vladimir Yurzinov will be out by February 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Chinese? Hard to say. The 'hockey country expats' of Beijing may go to games - if possible - but it's hard for me to say about the Beijingers as they're from a properly international city. If it is anything like the people of my province, oh dear... They love a winner, for Red Star this means winning games. However! They're not terribly fond of "non-Chinese" things (sports, food, driving sensibly) where I live, so they wouldn't care to see a bunch of Finns, Russians, and a Frenchman doing well. So either they lose and nobody would watch or they play the foreigners heavily and nobody would watch. Beijing is way different from the centre of China so that lends itself to some hope.

    The coaches will know the Chinese players aren't up to scratch; they're not even up to scratch in the Asia League, nevermind the KHL. That is a job I am glad somebody else is doing because balancing that innate desire to win against a probable burden of playing the overwhelmed domestic guys to please management is unenviable. My prediction is that Vladimir Yurzinov will be out by February 2018.
    Given that insight of yours, do you see Red Star lasting in the long term?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    Given that insight of yours, do you see Red Star lasting in the long term?
    Until the 2021-22 season ends. After that, there's not much point to the team existing from the Ministry of Sports' perspective.
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    Was putting the team in Beijing the KHL's idea or the Chinese Sports Ministry? Obviously I can understand wanting a team in the capital, but from what I've read here (as that is the sum of my hockey knowledge) wouldn't there be more sense in looking north? Amur Khabarovsk can find out what a local derby looks like, at least.

    Have China ever been half-decent in hockey? Given the amount of money the government throws at Olympic sports and the amount of specialist sports schools in the country, it seems weird that this is one sport where the only publicity is usually China Dragon losing their 100th game on the spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamJohn View Post
    Was putting the team in Beijing the KHL's idea or the Chinese Sports Ministry? Obviously I can understand wanting a team in the capital, but from what I've read here (as that is the sum of my hockey knowledge) wouldn't there be more sense in looking north? Amur Khabarovsk can find out what a local derby looks like, at least.

    Have China ever been half-decent in hockey? Given the amount of money the government throws at Olympic sports and the amount of specialist sports schools in the country, it seems weird that this is one sport where the only publicity is usually China Dragon losing their 100th game on the spin.
    Hockey is popular in the very north of China. But from reports Kunlun Is a joint KHL/Chinese government preparing for the Olympics type deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamJohn View Post
    Have China ever been half-decent in hockey? Given the amount of money the government throws at Olympic sports and the amount of specialist sports schools in the country, it seems weird that this is one sport where the only publicity is usually China Dragon losing their 100th game on the spin.
    Not really. China men's NT has always been a Pool C/Division II team with occasional appearances one step higher but never leaving a memorable performance. They last played in Division I in 2007 losing all their games. Their best period would be the late 80s when they won the first two Asian Winter Games tournaments. But then over that same period Japan would still have better results in games between Asian teams.

    From the Chinese point of view, hockey requires 20 guys to win one medal so lots of investments for little payback in the medal table. Maybe that's partly why they don't perform well in collective sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamJohn View Post
    Amur Khabarovsk can find out what a local derby looks like, at least.
    They have Admiral Vladivostok nowadays.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garethw87
    Hockey is popular in the very north of China. But from reports Kunlun Is a joint KHL/Chinese government preparing for the Olympics type deal.
    Probably evidenced by China Dragon moving base from Shanghai to Qiqihar last year. In Shanghai, they struggled to get a few hundred people to games. In Harbin (near Qiqihar), they filled the building to 2/3 capacity which isn't bad for a fringe sport.
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    Traktor beat Red Star 2-0 in their preseason clash
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    Back from holidays!

    Training has started for Jokerit aswell and the first pre-season game is within a week. So excited! If the game is seen anywhere I'll report what I saw here.
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    Israeli offenseman Eliezer Sherbatov has been trying out with Dinamo Riga for the past 2 weeks or so. Not sure if he'll get a contract offer but they are giving him a real look. Great to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Brunengraber View Post
    Israeli offenseman Eliezer Sherbatov has been trying out with Dinamo Riga for the past 2 weeks or so. Not sure if he'll get a contract offer but they are giving him a real look. Great to see.
    He's been cut. Two AHL guys have come in who look decent.

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    I saw the highlights of the Torpedo-Riga exhibition game, and wow, that would've made Brian Burke proud, what with all the belligerence and truculence
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    Anyone know why the KHL doesn't have it's own subforum under International Leagues?

    Just wondering, took me a minute to find the KHL discussion to see if there were any developments on the London rumors.

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    Kunlun won its first game against Barys: http://en.khl.ru/news/2016/08/06/313568.html
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    The second match between Kunlun and Barys turned ugly, as the former forfeited 3 minutes in due to Damir Ryspayev sucker punching and trying to start a fight with Kunlun's bench
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    The second match between Kunlun and Barys turned ugly, as the former forfeited 3 minutes in due to Damir Ryspayev sucker punching and trying to start a fight with Kunlun's bench
    He's a goon with no place in the KHL. He should play in the FHL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    He's a goon with no place in the KHL. He should play in the FHL.
    Per their Facebook page, the KHL has announced he's indefinitely suspended
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    Ryspayev has been handed a ban for life. Good on the KHL for showing him that his thuggery is not tolerated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    Ryspayev has been handed a ban for life. Good on the KHL for showing him that his thuggery is not tolerated.
    Well played, KHL. It is absolutely justified because Ryspayev cannot legitimately justify his actions and get anybody to believe him.

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    Ryspayev has sent a statement to the league's Disciplinary Committee. A favorable review could see reinstatement. Hockey fans shall wish against this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Ryspayev has sent a statement to the league's Disciplinary Committee. A favorable review could see reinstatement. Hockey fans shall wish against this.
    Good luck with that, Damir
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    On their Instagram page, Sochi announced that they're introducing a new logo:
    new Sochi logo.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conesy View Post
    On their Instagram page, Sochi announced that they're introducing a new logo
    Looks good, sweater doesn't look as nice as last year's though.

    In Barys news, the team have announced that Talgat Zhailauov has not signed his contract offer for the season. The diminutive Kazakh missed the majority of last year with an injury. Rumors are circulating that Zhailauov doesn't want to play under head coach Andrei Nazarov. Barys have started the regular season with losses to Metallurg Novokuznetsk and Sibir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Looks good, sweater doesn't look as nice as last year's though.
    Yeah, it reminds me of San Jose's old ones, which honestly were mediocre at best
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    Kunlun got its first win, defeating Amur 2-1. Also of note, per the KHL's site, is this tidbit:
    "Prior to Red Star’s formation there was much debate about how many Chinese-qualified players would actually step on to the ice in a multinational roster that also includes players from Russia, Canada, Finland, Sweden and Slovakia. In the end, four locals – defenseman Zach Yuen and forwards Tiangxiang Xia, Guanhua Wang and Rudi Ying made Vladimir Yurzinov’s line-up for the first game although they were used sparingly once the action got underway."
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