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    Estonia Estonian "league" 2016/17

    Estonian league went totally ridiculous for this year. We have TWO (yes,two) adult teams, Narva PSK and Viking Tallinn, which returns to the league after one year suspension due to bankruptcy. The third team is the youth team, wondering that they will play full "rounds" (??) or just some preparation games before the Worlds.
    There were times when only three teams participated (2010-12), but at least those were adult teams. So this is probably the worst season since ages. I don't know what the team managements and the federation are doing, but they are on the right way to kill the Estonian hockey. More info can be found on Viru-Sputnik's webpage (the page is still updated,yet the team not participates) http://virusputnik.ee/


    There were plans for a third team, named as the Army's team or something, but indeed it didn't happened.
    Viking plans to play a tournament with Zemgale, Mogo, Liepaja and Kurbads - they had the same plans last year and it didn't happened, I'm wondering what will happen this year. Viking's facebook-page is more or less (less) updated: https://www.facebook.com/hcviking/?fref=ts

    So that's all folks now. I'm wondering what will be the future, but if those who in charge for Estonian hockey don't start working immediately, Estonia will be suspended due to the lack of proper league.

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    In last two seasons Estonia lost traditional hockey cities as Tartu and Kohtla Jarve. Sputnik cited lack of players as reason to bye league tthis season. And i think this is the most worried part...lack of players means lack of youths wanting to play hockey. Where are the U18 and U20 players playing a couple of seasons ago for Everest for example?

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    Loosing of players and aging out is a major problem in Estonia. Check the rosters of the U20/U18 teams of the past 10 years at eliteprospect. You will see that after few years, even the talented ones ended up in amateur leagues (European amateur ones, New Zealand, etc), and then quit with hockey at all. There is Tallinn Vipers at the Finnish U16/C, and also a half squad of kids in good youth leagues, but you can be sure that they will end up as amateurs, and after a few season in Estonia or a lower league they quit with hockey.
    Also many player choose to became Finnish or Russian. It's easier to get a contract I guess, and also you don't collide with the import regulations of these countries.
    However, I don't have clue where those players went who left Tartu, Kohtla-Jarve, and Panther. Guess they simply left hockey at all. On Viru-sputnik website there is a quite good table about transfers and abroad players - no info about these guys there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDani View Post
    However, I don't have clue where those players went who left Tartu, Kohtla-Jarve, and Panther. Guess they simply left hockey at all. On Viru-sputnik website there is a quite good table about transfers and abroad players - no info about these guys there.
    Yep, lot's of national team players without club: Mihkel Vorang, Jaanus Sorokin, Maksim Semjonov, Vassili Titarenko, Maksim Robushkin, Artur Fedoruk, Ilja Urusev, Anton Nekrassov, Mark Samorukov...

    Very strange that there is hard to form more than two men's icehockey teams in the all country.

    In the spring, I read about that Toivo Suursoo would had come to coach HC Panther. But is there any information about how this went?

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    No Pater this year, so guess it was nothing but a plan. Yet Panther is still active on the youth levels, maybe he coaching there.
    And yes, this nine mentioned player should be enough for a team, even if the rest is U20 people. I'm wondering what team managements are doing there.

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    This is really bad news. What is the future of Estonian ice hockey if this conditions take for years?
    Even some amateur competition with 10-15 games is enough for Senior players that EStonia stay in divison 1B.But even that is now imposible...I really cant imagine that 2 clubs will play 15 games this year. In 2-3 years with this conditions, division 1B would be just nice memories.
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    This situation is bad indeed. If this continue, then we have only so called amateur leagues in Estonia soon. Youth leagues are also lack for teams. A-class (born 97/98) consists only 2 teams and B-class (99/00) have 3 teams. Right now there is proper amateur hockey league (HHL - Harrastajate Hokiliiga) with 3 levels (total 17 teams). And amateur leagues is in Tartu, Narva and Kohtla-Järve also. And there is also so called natural ice hockey league, teams from all over Estonia.

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    Not regarding to this topic, but since there is nothing to tell.
    Goalie Koitmaa surprisingly entered to the roster of the MOL-League team Dunaujváros, he even played his first game today against UTE, with 90%. DAB is now the 6th from 11 team, and so far they used Duschek(http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=48285). Interesting that there is way from British 3rd league and New Zealand to a more serious level. May it can give hope other Estonian players to try their luck.

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    Now situation will develop. There is a new team, HC Tallinn, which aim to participate to the Estonian league. Team consist lot's of nationalteam players like, Fedoruk, Vorang, Sorokin, Titarenko, Lukin, Urushev, Robushkin and Levkovits.

    It's almost november now and still any game has not played in Estonian league.

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    This team HC Tallinn is supported and financed by players themselves. There are players from the clubs which won´t take part in championships this year. Players want to train and play and then some good guys organized a new team for them. Only in Estonian ice hockey

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    Quote Originally Posted by maits View Post
    This team HC Tallinn is supported and financed by players themselves. There are players from the clubs which won´t take part in championships this year. Players want to train and play and then some good guys organized a new team for them. Only in Estonian ice hockey
    Something silimar was in Serbis before few years. But soon, this project was closed. Without money, financial support from hockey federation, city, it is very hard to do something alone.
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    Stupid thought, but would it be possible for an Estonian national team (or maybe HC Tallinn) to spend a season in the Latvian league, Suomi-sarja or Mestis? Some hockey is surely better than no hockey (or this joke 2-squad "league")

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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamJohn View Post
    Stupid thought, but would it be possible for an Estonian national team (or maybe HC Tallinn) to spend a season in the Latvian league, Suomi-sarja or Mestis? Some hockey is surely better than no hockey (or this joke 2-squad "league")
    Not a stupid idea, years ago it actually happened. A tema was founded as "Big Diamonds Tartu."(http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.p...0=2008&status=) they had almost all the NT players and some talented kids, with some foreigners. They participated in the Latvian League at 2007-08. But just after that, Estonia, a stable Div.1 team was relegated shamefully in Sapporo in the spring of 2008. The team went defunct and didn't started the next season, the players became free agents.
    Last year Viiking had the same idea, but Latvian federation turned them away, which is understandable regarding to Viking's riski financiall situation.

    But yess, it would help a lot for Estonian hockey. Maybe one day some rich man/company takes this seriously.

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