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    2018 IIHF Challenge Cup of Asia

    I'm expecting an announcement about the 2018 CCoA in the next week or so.

    Hopefully , without competition from the AWG there will be more than the 9 teams that played in 2017. Two full divisions of six would be good.

    There has to be a doubt about at least 3 of last year's teams. Oman are not regular participants. UAE and Kuwait have both entered the IHWC but hopefully will do both.

    Five possible additional entries ;

    Turkmenistan would be new but have entered the IHWC.

    Philippines and Indonesia would be new and are playing in next week's SE Asia games.

    Kyrgyzstan will hopefully return.

    Qatar have presumably got other priorities with their international relations problems but you never know.

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    The New Zealand Women's U18 team has released their schedule for the 2018 IIHF Women's Challenge Cup of Asia. Tournament looks to be running from 8 March to 11 March in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Their opponents are Singapore, Thailand and Chinese Taipei U18. Given the tournament in Malaysia I assume that means the organisers have split the tournament into two divisions competing in the single location. I don't think there will be any playoffs as the team lists their departure date as 12 March.

    https://www.facebook.com/NZU18W/

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    Thanks for that. Makes sense to have a top division with the 2017 top 3 plus TPE who are returning after being previous winners. Read that KUW are expecting to play so there could be 5 in the lower division.

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    Thanks Salavat for pointing me at the NZ site as it has quite a lot of new information. There is a document there with notes from the May Asian Strategic Planning Group. Shows that Philippines will host the men's 2018 CCoA with Malaysia hosting Division 1. I presume Philippines enter at the top level based on their AWG performance and maybe India didn't want to play at that level. The latest ASPG finished in Kuala Lumpur yesterday so more details should be published by the IIHF this week.

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    Some details of the 2017-18 events announced by the IIHF ;

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/asia/

    Five events with four of them hosted in Kuala Lumpur.

    Neither UAE nor Kyrgyzstan in the Senior Men's event.

    Qatar back and Philippines and Indonesia entered for the first time.

    Remember that this time last year there were 12 entries and only 9 played eventually.

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    This will be the eleventh Senior Men's event and there will be a new winner.

    Previous winners

    Chinese Taipei. 6
    UAE. 3
    Hong Kong 1

    All these three are concentrating on the IHWC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    Some details of the 2017-18 events announced by the IIHF ;

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/asia/

    Neither UAE nor Kyrgyzstan in the Senior Men's event.

    Qatar back and Philippines and Indonesia entered for the first time.

    Remember that this time last year there were 12 entries and only 9 played eventually.

    Geoff
    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH
    Previous winners

    Chinese Taipei. 6
    UAE. 3
    Hong Kong 1

    All these three are concentrating on the IHWC.
    I can understand UAE because of the hectic schedule of AWG, CCoA, and IHWC from last year led to some disappointing results. In 2018 we are due for another Gulf championship so they'll have an eye on that.

    I'm pretty bummed to see the Kyrgyz drop out but good to see them in the re-profiled U20 CCoA, which is fantastic in its own right.

    It's not pretty that there no confirmed announcements for the women's events.
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    The Malaysian federation has posted a notice to players for the Women's Division I tournament they will host. They are confirming participation by India, UAE, Philippines, and themselves.

    Interesting, or perhaps merely details and interpretation, is that the post references the tournament dates being 6-11 March, not 6-9 as the IIHF does. The IIHF has the "non-Div I WCCoA" as 8-11 March.

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    Participants for the Women's event now confirmed, four teams in each division as expected.

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/asia/

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    The U20 event began today in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Five teams are participating: India, Kyrgyzstan, Malaysia, Philippines and UAE. UAE opened the tornament with a 6:0 win over India followed by Malaysia trashing Philippines 11:0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciremya View Post
    The U20 event began today in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Five teams are participating: India, Kyrgyzstan, Malaysia, Philippines and UAE.
    Somewhat worrying is Kyrgyzstan's opening game roster has four suspended players. Despite Russian-ethnic names on the roster, none of them are suspended which would have indicated possible ineligibility issues. Out of action are:

    Zhanbolot Tagaev (F)
    Baktiiar Tilekmatov (D)
    Adil Bermuratov (F) and
    Islam Kylychbek Uulu (F).
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    Kyrgyzstan beats Philippines 12:4 in their first game before following with 10:2 win over UAE. In that second game, Tagaev, Tilekmatov and Kylychbek Uulu played so I guess they were finally deemed eligible to play. Bermuratov was still suspended. Host Malaysia won over India 12:4. Kyrgyzstan and Malaysia will face each other on Saturday in what will be the decisive game for gold. UAE assured themselves a place on the podium after beating Philippines 8:4.

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    and more local coverage with an interview of Malaysian goalie Shahrul Ilyas Abdul Shukor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZvZAMv1XYM

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    Looks to have been a successful event. India headed for 5th. Kyrgyzstan and Malaysia up next.

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    Malaysia won their game with Kyrgyzstan 6:1 and takes a serious option for gold. Bermuratov played in it so all Kyrgyzstan roster was eventually eligible. Kyrgyzstan still has a small hope to win the tournament in case of a three-way tie if UAE beat Malaysia by at least 3 goals in the final game today. But that seems hard to believe it could happen considering the results so far. But then who knows...

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    Kyrgyzstan beats India 13:2 and Malaysia goes for a clean sweep in this tourney with a 7:2 win over UAE. Congrats to the hosts. It's the first time a Malaysian team takes gold in an IIHF event. I really hope this event become a regular event on the calendar.

    Final rankings
    1. Malaysia, 12 pts
    2. Kyrgyzstan, 9 pts
    3. UAE, 6 pts
    4. Philippines, 3 pts
    5. India, 0 pt

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    Yes, hopefully continue and grow. Thailand and Hong Kong are obvious absentees.

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    I see that Oman is no longer listed as competing in the Men’s Division 1

    http://www.iihf.com/fi/home-of-hocke...ionships/asia/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    I see that Oman is no longer listed as competing in the Men’s Division 1

    http://www.iihf.com/fi/home-of-hocke...ionships/asia/

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    Isn't this the second time they've withdrawn from a Challenge Cup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    Isn't this the second time they've withdrawn from a Challenge Cup?
    Think so, can’t remember at what stage they dropped out in 2016. They have just played twice in the CCoA, 2015 and 2017.

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    And now Qatar seems to have withdrawn :

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/asia/

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    The Men’s Division I has started today with a 3-0 win for India over Macau. Indonesia makes their debut in an IIHF event next against hosts Malaysia.

    I’m concerned to see that there is no Mongolia squad listed yet for the forthcoming Championship in Manila. Have they had to withdraw ?

    Good to see solid progress with the CCoA for Women with what seems a successful two division event being hosted by Malaysia.

    Full details on IIHF.com as usual

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/asia/

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    12-0 to Malaysia , a tough debut for Indonesia. Last year they played in non-IIHF events and Malaysia won 13-2 and 10-3.

    Malaysia are probably much stronger than all the other teams, so Indonesia will hope for closer games to come.

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    Day 2 and the first ever win for Indonesia in and international competition in their 10th game.

    INA 4 IND 2
    MAS 7 MAC 1

    Despite losing today India has ensured that they avoid Malaysia in the semifinals.

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    Macau beat Indonesia 5-2 to gain 3rd place in the group and will meet India in the semifinals. Indonesia meets Malaysia.

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    Malaysia won the final 7-2 against Macau.

    Indonesia again beat India, 4-1 this time, to finish 3rd.

    Well done Malaysia for winning and hosting a successful event. Hope that Qatar and Oman will play next year.

    Good news for next week’s championship as the Mongolia entry list has now been published on iihf.com.

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    The 11th annual Challenge Cup of Asia got underway today

    http://www.iihf.com/competition/684/

    Hosts Philippines , playing in the event for the first time lost 4-7 to fellow contenders Thailand.

    Mongolia , the other favourite had a surprisingly close win over Singapore, 5-3.

    Kuwait start tomorrow against Mongolia.

    A new winner of the event is certain as none of the three previous winners, Taipei, UAE and Hong Kong, are competing this year. All have graduated to competing in the IIHF World Championships.

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    Big wins for Thailand, Mongolia and Philippines as the halfway stage is reached.

    http://www.iihf.com/competition/684/

    Championship is between Thailand and Mongolia, with hosts Philippines still having a slight chance if they get a big win over Mongolia, tomorrow. Kuwait and Singapore will go head to head for 4th and 5th.

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    Congratulations to Mongolia who are the new CCoA winners, their first win at the 8th attempt. Having lost 5-6 to Philippines, a result which effectively eliminated Philippines from contention, they needed a 2 goal margin of victory over Thailand to win the championship. They managed a surprisingly convincing 5-1 win. Well done to all concerned , including the organising hosts and all the teams.

    http://www.iihf.com/competition/684/

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    Didn┤t expect that Kuwait got beaten so badly. Most of the players were played at WC Div III qualification also.

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    Last of the CCoA events completed to end another successful season, the 11th for this event.

    Good progress with the Women’s and U20 events, which can hopefully continue to develop in future years.

    The Senior Men’s event needs to be looked at and the plans for next season, due in August, will be interesting.

    9 of the 15 previous participants competed this year. Three have moved on to the World Championships and three are struggling to keep their national team programs going. Hopefully Oman, Qatar and Kyrgyzstan will be back next year and there can be two divisions of six.

    With the disparity of standards, three divisions of four might work best but hosting would be a problem unless one host holds 2 or 3 of the divisions. This looks like a good option to me.

    There don’t seem to be any new teams likely in the short term. Turkmenistan and Nepal are the only IIHF members who haven’t competed. Turkmenistan has gone straight to the WC and Nepal are a long way from forming a team.

    Longer term there are plenty of teams that could appear, such as Bahrain, Iran, Lebanon, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Vietnam , Cambodia ...... !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maits View Post
    Didn┤t expect that Kuwait got beaten so badly. Most of the players were played at WC Div III qualification also.
    They did get beaten badly at the WC and their CCoA results were consistent with previous years. They don’t seem to have progressed at all and their decision to enter the WC looks odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    They did get beaten badly at the WC and their CCoA results were consistent with previous years. They don’t seem to have progressed at all and their decision to enter the WC looks odd.

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    Perhaps they have also discovered the stagnation of their development and will enter both to get more competitive international games? Seems a bit daft since they could play with the UAE far more regularly before doing two tournaments which are likely to involve more travel and higher costs.
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    There was this article about the Kuwait team on IIHF.com recently

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/n...64c715ff69a5bd

    Seems they are developing a younger squad and aiming for the next AWG , which may be in China in 2021 but is yet to be confirmed.

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    A good article from Martin Merk on IIHF.com

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/n...740c8a26fe96fc

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