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    2018 World Juniors in Vancouver & Victoria (CAN), Dec 26th 2018 - Jan 5th 2019

    Participating countries:

    Group A:

    Canada
    Czech republic
    Switzerland
    Denmark
    Russia

    Group B:

    USA
    Finland
    Kazakhstan
    Sweden
    Slovakia

    SCHEDULE
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    Slovak roster for this week's camp in Slovakia:

    Samuel Hlavaj 29. 05. 2001 MHA Martin
    Jakub Kostelný 21. 05. 1999 HK DUKLA Trenčín/MŠK Púchov
    Juraj Ovečka 01. 05. 1999 MHKM Skalica

    Juraj Sklenár 13. 07. 1999 MMHK Nitra
    Dávid Boldižár 06. 01. 1999 HC Slovan Bratislava
    Daniel Demo 01. 03. 1999 Lulea HF/SWE
    Marcel Dlugoš 10. 05. 2000 MsHKM Žilina
    Martin Fehérváry 06. 10. 1999 HV 71/SWE
    Andrej Golian 07. 03. 2001 HC 07 Detva
    Marek Korenčik 19. 07. 1999 Lulea HF/SWE
    Martin Kupec 25. 05. 1999 HC '05 Banská Bystrica
    Ján Nahálka 25. 04. 1999 HK '95 Považská Bystrica
    Enrik Švec 24. 12. 1999 MHK Dubnica nad Váhom
    Adam Žiak 22. 06. 1999 TuTo Hockey/FIN

    Jozef Baláž 18. 06. 1999 HC Vítkovice Ridera/HC Poruba/CZE
    Filip Čenka 02. 12. 2000 MHk 32 Liptovský Mikuláš
    Miloš Fafrák 08. 07. 1999 MHA Martin
    Oliver Giertl 16. 07. 1999 HC '05 Banská Bystrica
    Matúš Havrila 25. 07. 1999 P.H.K. Prešov
    Miloš Kelemen 06. 07. 1999 HKM Zvolen
    Andrej Kollár 04. 11. 1999 MMHK Nitra
    Jakub Köver 23. 07. 1999 HC Košice
    Filip Krivošík 27. 03. 1999 HPK Hämeenlinna /FIN
    Adam Liška 14. 10. 1999 HC Slovan Bratislava
    Pavol Regenda 07. 12. 1999 Växjö Laker/SWE
    Jakub Urbánek 22. 06. 1999 HK Orange 20
    SUBSTITUTES
    Boris Brincko 13. 04. 1999 HK Orange 20
    Róbert Džugan 25. 03. 2000 HK Orange 20
    Michal Juščák 14. 04. 1999 HC Bíli Tygři Liberec/CZE
    Lukáš Lunter 10. 04. 1999 HK Orange 20
    Jakub Minárik 06. 07. 2000 HK Orange 20

    Players expected to join the NA camp:
    D Michal Ivan
    F Marin Pospisil
    F Adam Ruzicka
    F Patrik Hrehorcak
    F Oliver Okuliar
    F Maxim Cajkovic
    F Milos Roman
    F Andrej Kukuca
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    Canada has only 1 returning player. They also got beat up by the Russians in the annual 6 game suite against the 3 jr leagues.
    Goalies might be better then usual however...better be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    Canada has only 1 returning player. They also got beat up by the Russians in the annual 6 game suite against the 3 jr leagues.
    Goalies might be better then usual however...better be.
    I wouldn't put too much stock into what happened in that 6 game challenge series.
    We got beat up?
    I wouldn't say so.
    The Russians won it 4-2 but the 4th win was in OT so it could have easily been a split which was exactly what happened last year.
    At any rate, playing three hastily assembled league all star teams isn't the same as playing the actual junior team that will represent Canada.
    I'm still fairly confident we can repeat.

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    Slovakia Slovakia Final Roster

    Samuel Hlavaj 29. 05. 2001 HK Orange 20
    Jakub Kostelný 21. 05. 1999 HK DUKLA Trenčín/MŠK Púchov
    Juraj Sklenár 13. 07. 1999 HK Orange 20

    Daniel Demo 01. 03. 1999 Lulea HF (SWE)
    Marcel Dlugoš 10. 05. 2000 HK Orange 20
    Martin Fehérváry 06. 10. 1999 HV 71 (SWE)
    Andrej Golian 07. 03. 2001 HK Orange 20
    Marek Korenčik 19. 07. 1999 Lulea HF (SWE)
    Martin Kupec 25. 05. 1999 HK Orange 20
    Adam Žiak 22. 06. 1999 TuTo Hockey (FIN)
    Michal Ivan 18. 11. 1999 Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL)

    Jozef Baláž 18. 06. 1999 HC Vítkovice Ridera/HC Poruba (CZE)
    Miloš Fafrák 08. 07. 1999 HK Orange 20
    Oliver Giertl 16. 07. 1999 HK Orange 20
    Miloš Kelemen 06. 07. 1999 HKM Zvolen
    Andrej Kollár 04. 11. 1999 HK Orange 20
    Filip Krivošík 27. 03. 1999 HPK Hämeenlinna (FIN)
    Adam Liška 14. 10. 1999 HC Slovan Bratislava
    Pavol Regenda 07. 12. 1999 Växjö Lakers (SWE)
    Adam Ružička 11. 05. 1999 Sarnia Sting (OHL)
    Andrej Kukuča 14. 11. 1999 Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL)
    Martin Pospíšil 19. 11. 1999 Sioux City Musketeers (USHL)
    Miloš Roman 06. 11. 1999 Vancouver Giants (WHL)
    Patrik Hrehorčák 18. 03. 1999 Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL)
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    Denmark Denmark - Final Roster

    Goaltenders:
    Albert Adamsen - Herning
    William Rřrth - Rřdovre
    Mads Sřgaard - Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)

    Defencemen:
    Daniel Andersen- Linköping Jrs. (SuperElit)
    Victor Andersen - Herning
    Lasse Holm Mortensen - Rřdovre
    Magnus Koch - Herlev
    Oscar Schulze - Rungsted
    Malte Setkov - Malmö (SHL)
    Jeppe Urup Mogensen - Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)

    Forwards:
    Lucas Andersen - Karlskrona Jrs. (SuperElit)
    Lukas Bach Nielsen - EV Zug Jrs. (Elite Jr. A)
    Jonathan Brinkman - Aalborg
    Victor Cubars - Malmö Jrs. (SuperElit)
    Christoffer Gath - Herlev
    Gustav Green - Rungsted
    Andreas Grundtvig - Esbjerg
    Oliver Kjćr - Esbjerg
    David Madsen - Malmö Jrs. (SuperElit)
    Emil Marcussen - Aalborg
    Jonas Rřndbjerg - Växjö (SHL)
    Phillip Schultz - Victoria Royals (WHL)
    Jakob Wittendorf - Odense

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    Here we go guys. Heatleysucks you are always an optimist. TC will need a lot of luck to grab any hardware this year. And since I am a proven jinx I may have to tape games instead of watching live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    Here we go guys. Heatleysucks you are always an optimist. TC will need a lot of luck to grab any hardware this year. And since I am a proven jinx I may have to tape games instead of watching live.
    Well Chuck, I have to admit that last tune up game against Finland tempered my enthusiasm just a bit.
    Canada's special teams were terrible for the most part giving up two PP goals and two shorties.
    Mike DiPietro is supposed to be the real deal (my Ottawa 67s gave up a lot to get him at the trade deadline) but he looked ordinary in this game.
    Scott wasn't much better...in fact statistically a lot worse.
    I'm just hoping the performance was an anomaly and not a harbinger of things to come.
    I heard Canada is riding an 11 year medal at home streak but if they have a few more performances like that the streak will likely end.
    Last edited by Heatleysucks; 26-12-2018 at 23:48.

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    I hate running up the score - especially when it's my own guys. I've heard all the excuses - don't buy it. No need to embarrass anyone.
    I was glad to see Denmark rebound with a decent game against Russia. Although nothing to show for it, SVK has looked good so far, as have the Swiss.

    I agree with Heatleysucks, Canada's special teams are a weakness. IMHO especially the PK. They need a complete overhaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    I hate running up the score - especially when it's my own guys. I've heard all the excuses - don't buy it. No need to embarrass anyone.
    I was glad to see Denmark rebound with a decent game against Russia. Although nothing to show for it, SVK has looked good so far, as have the Swiss.

    I agree with Heatleysucks, Canada's special teams are a weakness. IMHO especially the PK. They need a complete overhaul.
    I thought Hunter could have called off the dogs after two periods when it was already 8-0.
    But I suppose playing in front of a home crowd influenced the decision not to pull back.
    What really pissed me off were the crowd shots after the goals, especially after goal 12 and 13.
    They showed some ass clowns celebrating as if Canada just won gold in OT....I know these guys crave face time but curb your enthusiasm a bit.
    It's Denmark people....that's like 'Bama fans giving high fives after scoring the 10th TD against Prairie View.
    Classy.

    Canada could have used some of those goals against the Swiss.
    They got the job done (barely) but it was not a work of art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatleysucks View Post
    I thought Hunter could have called off the dogs after two periods when it was already 8-0.
    But I suppose playing in front of a home crowd influenced the decision not to pull back.
    What really pissed me off were the crowd shots after the goals, especially after goal 12 and 13.
    They showed some ass clowns celebrating as if Canada just won gold in OT....I know these guys crave face time but curb your enthusiasm a bit.
    It's Denmark people....that's like 'Bama fans giving high fives after scoring the 10th TD against Prairie View.
    Classy.

    Canada could have used some of those goals against the Swiss.
    They got the job done (barely) but it was not a work of art.
    I was enjoying the game until the end of the 2nd. It became somewhat embarrassing after that. They could have stopped at 8-0 but, as you say, they probably put on a show for the home crowd. Doesn't make for good hockey though.
    What about the Kazakh goalie making 51 saves in yesterday's late game? Pretty impressive. Very curious to see how the Kazakhs will do the rest of the way. Will they avoid the relegation round?

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    Pretty good effort by TC against CZE tonight, especially Dipietro. I thought the Czechs had the better of the play in the 2nd but ended up going down by a goal. Nice having a good keeper. I hope he keeps it up. New years eve against the little red machine will be interesting.

    My opinion - Kazakhistan goes down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    Pretty good effort by TC against CZE tonight, especially Dipietro. I thought the Czechs had the better of the play in the 2nd but ended up going down by a goal. Nice having a good keeper. I hope he keeps it up. New years eve against the little red machine will be interesting.
    DiPietro is supposed to be a top goaltender prospect and he showed that Saturday.

    Also, the Canadian PK and PP, which were roundly and justifiably criticized in the Swiss game, came to life.
    This was Canada's best game by far but they'll have to ratchet it up a notch to take on the Russians.

    I think Denmark is headed to relegation, Chuck.
    Can't win if you can't score.
    And they can't keep them out either...0-22 goal difference.
    Worst looking Danish team I have seen in a long time.

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    Two for Ripleys:
    1.) Hard to believe Sweden blew a 4-0 lead with ten minutes left.
    2.) Hard to believe Sweden hasn't lost a round-robin game in 12 years. 48-0 (after tomorrow). ...AND they have only 1 gold medal to show for it. Here's a theory...Sweden excels at "systems" so early in the tournament they have a slight advantage over the teams still learning to play together. Later on, this advantage disapears. Any other ideas ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    Two for Ripleys:
    1.) Hard to believe Sweden blew a 4-0 lead with ten minutes left.
    2.) Hard to believe Sweden hasn't lost a round-robin game in 12 years. 48-0 (after tomorrow). ...AND they have only 1 gold medal to show for it. Here's a theory...Sweden excels at "systems" so early in the tournament they have a slight advantage over the teams still learning to play together. Later on, this advantage disapears. Any other ideas ?
    And you know if they go unbeaten again in prelim round play only to lose gold they'll get crucified in the home media.
    Swedish newspapers and media outlets, Aftonbladet in particular, are notorious for roasting Swedish teams if they don't perform up to expectations.
    The most infamous example was the Sweden-Belarus QF game of the Salt Lake Olympics in 2002.
    I think poor Tommy SAlo had to go into hiding after that.

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    Yeah, Salo unfairly took the blame.

    Every time the Swiss play Canada they play a very sound defensive game and are opportunistic on offense. Hence I was really surprised watching the meltdown against Russia. Giveaways and sloppy D resulted in 4 Russian goals in the 3rd.

    Well it's not like me to take a chance, but I'm picking a winner tonight. Have a feeling....the good guys over Russia to end 2018 with a bang.

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    Should never watch live. Way too much of a jinx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Wagon View Post
    Should never watch live. Way too much of a jinx.
    Well, if it's any consolation I watched it on tape...what will be will be I guess.
    I thought it was a great game, pretty even throughout.
    On the game winner though, Pavel Shen was allowed to waltz through virtually the entire Canadian team to score.
    He looked like Bobby Orr vs the Oakland Seals.

    Watched the US-Finland game.
    The Americans looked scary good, totally dominating Finland.
    And this was without their considered best player, Jack Hughes.
    Obviously would have preferred to face Slovakia but I like how we match up against the Finns.
    Canada lost to Finland in pre tournament play but that was a very poor performance.
    If Canada continues to play at the level displayed these past two games I think they'll win no problem.

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    Sweden looks pretty good so far..this is the weakest roster in years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stolpskott View Post
    Sweden looks pretty good so far
    Take that back..looks like we're out in QF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stolpskott View Post
    Take that back..looks like we're out in QF.
    Well, it's not over yet but as America's Orangutan-in-Chief is fond of saying, Sweden is in YUUUGE trouble!

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    Well, no medal for Canada this year, home ice or not.
    2-1 OT loss ends the Canadian streak of 11 straight home ice podium finishes.
    Heartbreaking loss as Canada was 47 seconds away from winning in regulation and missed an OT penalty shot.
    Canada now joins Sweden on the sidelines as gold medal contenders knocked out early.

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    We finally have a decent goaltender but don't get him any goals. I question using Comtois on the PS. Seems there were better pure scorers available. Anyway, good game by Finland, best of luck to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatleysucks View Post
    Well, it's not over yet but as America's Orangutan-in-Chief is fond of saying, Sweden is in YUUUGE trouble!
    That is really offensive, Orangutans are gentle intelligent creatures ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffH View Post
    That is really offensive, Orangutans are gentle intelligent creatures ��
    You're absolutely right Geoff....shame on me.
    My apologies to all orangutans everywhere for comparing them to a loathsome creature that's neither gentle nor intelligent.

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    I never got the sense that Canada was on top of their game. If you put aside the 14-0 drubbing of Denmark, they really only had one great game, which was against the Czechs. 2 goals scored in their last two games is simply not good enough. Oh well, that is the way the game goes sometimes.

    The Swiss: Very happy to see that they upset the Swedes. I hope they go far.

    The Danes: They finally scored goals but still lost to the Kazakhs. I am sure they will be relegated and I don't think it will take the full 3 games to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    I never got the sense that Canada was on top of their game. If you put aside the 14-0 drubbing of Denmark, they really only had one great game, which was against the Czechs. 2 goals scored in their last two games is simply not good enough. Oh well, that is the way the game goes sometimes.
    The Canadians almost made that one goal against Finland stand up but that tying goal...well, let's put it this way...the look on Mike Dipietro's face says it all.
    And in OT Noah Dobson was set up like Ovie and looked like he was going to powder it into the back of the Finnish net.
    Sadly, the only thing that got powdered was his stick...damn those stinkin' composites.
    Then the Finns get a break the other way and a defenceman who hardly ever scores has one deflect off the shaft of Cody Glass's stick into the net.
    Sometimes the hockey gods aren't smiling down on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatleysucks View Post
    The Canadians almost made that one goal against Finland stand up but that tying goal...well, let's put it this way...the look on Mike Dipietro's face says it all.
    And in OT Noah Dobson was set up like Ovie and looked like he was going to powder it into the back of the Finnish net.
    Sadly, the only thing that got powdered was his stick...damn those stinkin' composites.
    Then the Finns get a break the other way and a defenceman who hardly ever scores has one deflect off the shaft of Cody Glass's stick into the net.
    Sometimes the hockey gods aren't smiling down on you.
    Bob McKenzie said the exact same thing on TSN. The hockey gods were certainly not with Canada: tying goal with 46 seconds left, Penalty shot miss, then the exploding stick. Just how much bad luck can a team have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    The Danes: They finally scored goals but still lost to the Kazakhs. I am sure they will be relegated and I don't think it will take the full 3 games to do it.
    I wouldn't count the Dane Train out yet. Kazakhstan teams have a habit of choking. I was pleasantly surprised to see the score but Denmark carried play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trim View Post
    I wouldn't count the Dane Train out yet. Kazakhstan teams have a habit of choking. I was pleasantly surprised to see the score but Denmark carried play.
    Denmark carried the play for sure but I think the Kazakhs have the better goaltender which is a real equalizer.
    Demid Yeremeyev, you may recall, was the netminder in the 5-0 loss to Finland.
    Obviously, Kazakhstan had no hope of winning that game but without Yeremeyev, the Finns would have easily reached double digits.
    In a relegation series his netminding might prove to be the crucial difference as the Danish goaltenders remind no one of Frederik Anderson.

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    Just as I predicted, Kazakhstan beat Denmark in two games to relegate the Danes(4-0 today). Seriously, if you can't score a goal in 5 of 6 games, you don't deserve to be at this level. The Kazakhs won the games that counted and , at least, scored goals in most of their games in the preliminary round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    Just as I predicted, Kazakhstan beat Denmark in two games to relegate the Danes(4-0 today). Seriously, if you can't score a goal in 5 of 6 games, you don't deserve to be at this level. The Kazakhs won the games that counted and , at least, scored goals in most of their games in the preliminary round.
    Was bound to happend and if hadn’t happened this year it most likely would have been the case next year and the given the performance of the 1999- & 2000-class this season and at the U18-level, it’s not that much of a surprise to be honest.

    The coming classes have also struggled at the U16-level, so perhaps not the worst time to get relegated but a return also looks rather questionable for the foreseeable future.

    Still the end result (five straight WJC-20 appearances) is a pretty good feed for a hockey country like Denmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    Just as I predicted, Kazakhstan beat Denmark in two games to relegate the Danes(4-0 today). Seriously, if you can't score a goal in 5 of 6 games, you don't deserve to be at this level. The Kazakhs won the games that counted and , at least, scored goals in most of their games in the preliminary round.
    The game and relegation series wasn't televised but I think it can be assumed the Kazakhs MVP was Yeremeyev.
    He played both games, stopping 40 of 43 shots in game one and all 25 he faced today.
    That's three goals allowed on 68 shots for a nifty .956 save percentage.
    The Danish goaltending OTOH...not so stellar.
    Mads Soegaard played Thursday allowing four goals on 19 shots...a save percentage of .789.
    William Rorth was in goal in Game 2 and fared even worse than Soegaard, giving up four goals on just 16 shots.
    That's a save percentage of .750...yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    Just as I predicted, Kazakhstan beat Denmark in two games to relegate the Danes(4-0 today). Seriously, if you can't score a goal in 5 of 6 games, you don't deserve to be at this level. The Kazakhs won the games that counted and , at least, scored goals in most of their games in the preliminary round.
    The game and relegation series wasn't televised but I think it can be assumed the Kazakhs MVP was Yeremeyev.
    He played both games, stopping 40 of 43 shots in game one and all 25 he faced today.
    That's three goals allowed on 68 shots for a nifty .956 save percentage.
    The Danish goaltending OTOH...not so stellar.
    Mads Soegaard played Thursday allowing four goals on 19 shots...a save percentage of .789.
    William Rorth was in goal in Game 2 and fared even worse than Soegaard, giving up four goals on just 16 shots.
    That's a save percentage of .750...yikes.
    EDIT
    Actually two of the Kazakh goals were late empty netters.
    So Rorth actually allowed two goals on 14 shots which still results in a SV % of .857.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatleysucks View Post
    The game and relegation series wasn't televised but I think it can be assumed the Kazakhs MVP was Yeremeyev.
    He played both games, stopping 40 of 43 shots in game one and all 25 he faced today.
    That's three goals allowed on 68 shots for a nifty .956 save percentage.
    The Danish goaltending OTOH...not so stellar.
    Mads Soegaard played Thursday allowing four goals on 19 shots...a save percentage of .789.
    William Rorth was in goal in Game 2 and fared even worse than Soegaard, giving up four goals on just 16 shots.
    That's a save percentage of .750...yikes.
    EDIT
    Actually two of the Kazakh goals were late empty netters.
    So Rorth actually allowed two goals on 14 shots which still results in a SV % of .857.
    Anyway you slice it, they didn't play well and their goalies were below average whereas the Kazakh goalies rose to the occasion at times (the 51 saves vs the Finns and the two relegation games).

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    By now most Canadians who care about this have gotten over the disappointment of the junior team's early elimination.
    The ones who will take this the hardest of course are the players themselves.
    Most people will only have words of encouragement and consolation for them...the reasonable people who understand fully what these kids have to go through.

    But there are others...despicable cowards who hide behind aliases on social media...who viciously attacked these players for the egregious crime of losing a damn hockey game.
    For example, the Canadian team captain Maxime Comtois who took the overtime PS and did not score, was particularly subjected to horrendous personal attacks.
    So much so he had to shut off his accounts.
    I won't repeat here any of the attacks that were leveled at him but some even included wishing he'd get a terminal disease.
    What kind of person gets so bent out of shape they have to say awful things about teenage hockey players?
    Some people in this country absolutely disgust me.
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    Finland is doing really well in junior hockey right now, U18+U20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatleysucks View Post
    What kind of person gets so bent out of shape they have to say awful things about teenage hockey players?
    Some people in this country absolutely disgust me.
    The kind of person whose closest experience of pro hockey they will ever get is playing NHL '19 on their Playstation.

    The fact that these keyboard warriors (who are probably all in their mid-30s) show themselves up to be less mature than the teenage players they're insulting escapes them...

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