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    North Korea North Korean ice hockey

    WHo could help em with the leaguetables of 2003-2004 and 2004-2005?

    Logo/symbol of Federation of DPR KORea and India?

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    I don't think DPR Korea has a specific hockey logo. There has never been a logo on their jersey, only a big N. Korean flag. :003:

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    IIHF

    This information comes from the 2003-2004 IIHF Survey of Players:

    DPR (North) Korea
    - 3,280 registered players (480 senior, 2,000 junior, 800 female)
    - 23 male referees, 5 female referees
    - 3 indoor rinks, 13 outdoor rinks
    - Participated in 2004 World Men's Championship, Division II and 2004 World Women's Championship, Division I

    South Africa
    - 515 registered players (102 senior, 400 junior, 60 female)
    - 15 male referees, 6 female referees
    - 5 indoor rinks
    - Participated in 2004 World Men's Championship, Division II; World U20 Championship, Division II; World U18 Championship, Division III

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    Any word on a North Korean hockey championship? Is there even a national league/championship? Can anyone get info on this?

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    Trying to find any information coming out of North Korea is a very difficult task :D Maybe a Korean member can help, if there's any information lying around on the hangul net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Bucks
    Trying to find any information coming out of North Korea is a very difficult task :D Maybe a Korean member can help, if there's any information lying around on the hangul net.
    That's what I figured.
    Maybe they have their own national intranet, so that their people can't surf the internet. or something. who knows. insular countries are annoying when you're trying to find stuff out. :(

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    Looks like I will be in North Korea to cover the World Women's Championship, Division II, if it ends up being held there.

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    Wow, that's amazing! I would be very curious to hear how the tournament would be run in North Korea (there are some interesting online travelogues of people who've visited North Korea, but they're always restricted to the same tourist itinerary.)

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    North Korean ice hockey

    Hey. I just wanna know why is ice hockey far more popular in north korea(3,280 players) than south korea(706 players)?

    anyone know why?

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    azerbaijan has hockey?

    anyways, i don't think north korea has a league, but i do think their universities compete, i don't really know seriously that country's gotta open up, even a south korean doesn't know anything, all i know is that they have a lot more hockey players than south korea for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomtree
    azerbaijan has hockey?

    anyways, i don't think north korea has a league, but i do think their universities compete, i don't really know seriously that country's gotta open up, even a south korean doesn't know anything, all i know is that they have a lot more hockey players than south korea for some reason
    gotta wonder if they're not exaggerating those stats, especially when you consider how relatively poorly their national team plays.

    Case in point: Slovenia, with approx one quarter the number of registered players, was able to succeed at the top level, that's TWO levels higher than the DPR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs
    gotta wonder if they're not exaggerating those stats, especially when you consider how relatively poorly their national team plays.

    Case in point: Slovenia, with approx one quarter the number of registered players, was able to succeed at the top level, that's TWO levels higher than the DPR...
    they're probably not exaggerating, i mean they should have a lot of players, it's about the only one of the two team sports they can play, but north korea's a poor country,average person in prk live on only $1,500 a year, i doubt if the kids there, have the proper gears, but i found out that in pyongyang, hockey's pretty popular, they were introduced to the sport by russians during or before the Korean war

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomtree
    but north korea's a poor country,average person in prk live on only $1,500 a year, i doubt if the kids there, have the proper gears, but i found out that in pyongyang, hockey's pretty popular, they were introduced to the sport by russians during or before the Korean war
    I would think the teams or national program most likely would provide equipment due to the low wages. Such a pity North Korea is so isolated that there is no information coming out, even about such 'non-serious' things like ice hockey.
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    i would wish that the Koreas unite... it's been 50 years... i wanna see them play as one team

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    League tables in season 2004/2005 is
    http://www.hokej.cz/index.php?view=c...&menu=menu_0_0

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomtree
    i would wish that the Koreas unite... it's been 50 years... i wanna see them play as one team
    hey, fully agree with you...... :023:
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    Wow, I wonder how they found the league table, amazing. But is it just me or does it seem like the W-T-L record doesn't add up??

    Konečné pořadí:
    1. Pyongyang 30 26 2 2 54
    2. Pyongchol Pyongyang 30 21 4 5 46
    3. Kimchol 30 18 6 6 42
    4. Ryanggang Kaesong 30 19 2 9 40
    5. Susan Pyongyang 30 15 5 10 35
    6. Jagang Kanggye 30 15 3 12 33
    7. Nampo Sport Center 30 10 2 18 22

    There's way more wins than losses in the league.. weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Bucks
    Wow, I wonder how they found the league table, amazing. But is it just me or does it seem like the W-T-L record doesn't add up??

    Konečné pořadí:
    1. Pyongyang 30 26 2 2 54
    2. Pyongchol Pyongyang 30 21 4 5 46
    3. Kimchol 30 18 6 6 42
    4. Ryanggang Kaesong 30 19 2 9 40
    5. Susan Pyongyang 30 15 5 10 35
    6. Jagang Kanggye 30 15 3 12 33
    7. Nampo Sport Center 30 10 2 18 22

    There's way more wins than losses in the league.. weird.
    Unless my maths are wrong, which is highly possible, in 105 league games, there were 12 ties. That doesn't seem wrong, what is clearly wrong as Tokyo Bucks points out, is that somehow in the remaining 93 games there are 124 winners... and yet only half as many losses. 93 is halfway between 124 and 62 so something is very dubious.

    My brain has just imploded.
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    Perhaps something to do with overtime wins?

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    DPR Korea Final Tables.....

    all this Final Tables are published from Michal Travnicek from the Czech Federation's Homepage. He's a good friend of me, and he has some "special" contacts.... He is also the guy, who gave me the tables from Mongolia in the past (not for this season, because, he'd never get any answer)

    Most of the DPR Korea and Rep. of China Tables, where I could found, are wrong.... I do not have any idea, how the calculate.....
    Cheers, Franco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco
    all this Final Tables are published from Michal Travnicek from the Czech Federation's Homepage. He's a good friend of me, and he has some "special" contacts.... He is also the guy, who gave me the tables from Mongolia in the past (not for this season, because, he'd never get any answer)

    Most of the DPR Korea and Rep. of China Tables, where I could found, are wrong.... I do not have any idea, how the calculate.....
    okay, so do we know the name of the champion in DPRK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs
    okay, so do we know the name of the champion in DPRK?
    no, no idea, what is the correctly "korean" name for the championship.
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    Man internationalhockeygang has so low posts...

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    DPR Korea Champion 2005-06

    I got the champion from DPR Korea.....

    Pyongchol Pyongyang


    ...but absolutelly no more infos....
    Cheers, Franco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco
    I got the champion from DPR Korea.....

    Pyongchol Pyongyang


    ...but absolutelly no more infos....
    Franco. You rule.

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    DPR Korea Final Table 2005-06

    and here we go with the Finaltable:

    Final standing:

    1. Pyongchol Pyongyang 30 23 3 4 49
    2. Pyongyang 30 22 2 6 46
    3. Susan Pyongyang 30 20 4 6 44
    4. Kimchol 30 15 5 10 35
    5. Ryanggang Kaesong 30 12 3 15 27
    6. Jagang Kanggye 30 10 5 15 25
    7. Nampo Sport Center 30 5 4 21 14


    Well, again 107 win's and 77 losses..... I try to find out why....
    Last edited by Franco; 21-08-2006 at 18:23.
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    League table 2005/2006

    1.Pyongchol Pyongyang 30 23 3 4 49
    2.Pyongyang 30 22 2 6 46
    3.Susan Pyongyang 30 20 4 6 44
    4.Kimchol 30 15 5 10 35
    5.Ryanggang Kaesong 30 12 3 15 27
    6.Jagang Kanggye 30 10 5 15 25
    7.nampo Sport center 30 5 4 21 14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukáš Selucký
    League table 2005/2006

    1.Pyongchol Pyongyang 30 23 3 4 49
    2.Pyongyang 30 22 2 6 46
    3.Susan Pyongyang 30 20 4 6 44
    4.Kimchol 30 15 5 10 35
    5.Ryanggang Kaesong 30 12 3 15 27
    6.Jagang Kanggye 30 10 5 15 25
    7.nampo Sport center 30 5 4 21 14
    Lukas,

    did we put this to the same time in this Forum?? Funny..... I'm sure, you foundet on the Czech Federation Page, Editor Michal Travnicek... :023:
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    Franco,
    yes www.hokej.cz(from Michal Trávníček)

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    Answer from Michal Travnicek

    ....regarding the "calculation" of the wins/losses at the Final Table:

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    two years ago it was easy - 1 standard win = 2 DPRK wins. Last year it was more complicated. Number of wons is right any 30 higher then number o losses - right number of games "played" by each team (in woman league it is the same). Abolutely no idea (and nobody of them I spoke about it whom), how they calculated those games (and no answer from DPRK, of course).

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    1 standard win = 2 DPRK wins
    Ha, what a morale boost!

    Too bad the quixotic DPRK sporting win formula has become more complex :P

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    I wasn't aware there was an exchange rate for wins like there is for money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs
    That's what I figured.
    Maybe they have their own national intranet, so that their people can't surf the internet. or something. who knows. insular countries are annoying when you're trying to find stuff out.
    You're right about DPRK's national intranet. This is slightly off-topic, but to go along with our inability to get proper information, why not? I'm sure plenty of you have seen this, http://www.eatliver.com/north-korea/ These are photographs from North Korea from a Russian web developer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses
    I don't think DPR Korea has a specific hockey logo. There has never been a logo on their jersey, only a big N. Korean flag. :003:

    How 'bout this on the jersey :claphands



    :devileek:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeynomad
    How 'bout this on the jersey :claphands



    :devileek:
    That will scare the crap out of the opponent hockey players :eek:

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomtree
    That will scare the crap out of the opponent hockey players :eek:
    At least they wouldn't be putting that hair on top of their helmets. That would cause forfeitures! A win's a win though.
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    An encouragement to all the Catholic countries out there. :hockey1:

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomtree


    An encouragement to all the Catholic countries out there. :hockey1:
    you forgot the thought bubble that says "What the **** is this and what in hell am I supposed to do with it?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs
    you forgot the thought bubble that says "What the **** is this and what in hell am I supposed to do with it?"
    C'mon Steigs, you of all people should know that JP2 played hockey in his younger days! That's no joke either, he really did.

    Would be funny to see Vatican City taking on Division III. If things went well, they could at least have a U20 or U18 team. If I remember correctly, people that work in the Vatican are granted citizenship, as do their children and spouses up to the age of 25 (until the person stops working there, then they can receive Italian citizenship).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KazakhEagles
    C'mon Steigs, you of all people should know that JP2 played hockey in his younger days! That's no joke either, he really did.
    Why would I know that? In fact I didn't, but that's pretty cool. I knew he was all about downhill skiing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs
    Why would I know that? In fact I didn't, but that's pretty cool. I knew he was all about downhill skiing though.
    I randomly found this picture and there was an article that went with it. It said that he's an "avid Boston Bruins fan" :censored:

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    Thats good. Except why couldnt he pray to god that the Bruins win a playoff series. They lost in the first round 3 years straight. 2 of the years they had a 3-1 lead.

    Also, in my hometown, Quincy,MA,USA , just 5 min away from Boston, they have a park named after him.
    RIP JP2 God Bless
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    Oh sweet, I live in MA also.

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    where?MA is nice. except for big dig. is a piece of :censored:
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    Quote Originally Posted by usausa
    where?MA is nice. except for big dig. is a piece of :censored:
    A small town called Belmont. It's considered a hockey town, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KazakhEagles
    C'mon Steigs, you of all people should know that JP2 played hockey in his younger days! That's no joke either, he really did.

    Would be funny to see Vatican City taking on Division III. If things went well, they could at least have a U20 or U18 team. If I remember correctly, people that work in the Vatican are granted citizenship, as do their children and spouses up to the age of 25 (until the person stops working there, then they can receive Italian citizenship).
    Which team did he play for? I'm curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowan
    WHo could help em with the leaguetables of 2003-2004 and 2004-2005?

    Logo/symbol of Federation of DPR KORea and India?
    DPRK do have a logo for the federation. I do have a pin which I bought once in Prague. I can try to scan it and post the picture if you send me your e-mail address.

    As for the jerseys, they only have the DPRK flag as logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz
    Is this really the North Korean jersey? Isn't it the jersey of some North-South joint team in some tournament?

    Here is some basic info and some pictures. Look at the game picture on the bottom of the site.

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    The picture Jazz supplied is from the South Korean team at the 2006 IHWC Div II Group B. I'd imagine just a wee tad of brain fade there, no worries! Yardbird supplied the actual DPR Korea uniform as seen in world championships.
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    I believe these are the jerseys you guys are looking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KazakhEagles
    The picture Jazz supplied is from the South Korean team at the 2006 IHWC Div II Group B. I'd imagine just a wee tad of brain fade there, no worries! Yardbird supplied the actual DPR Korea uniform as seen in world championships.
    correct - see up to the picture is written "G3_NZ_Vs_Korea", what means Game three of the WC. And game three was NZL vs Rep. of Korea (8:1 for Rep. of Korea)
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