View Poll Results: Predict the Relegation Round Results

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  • GER vs DEN, Germany will win

    28 45.16%
  • GER vs DEN, Denmark will win

    23 37.10%
  • AUT vs HUN, Austria will win

    29 46.77%
  • AUT vs HUN, Hungary will win

    23 37.10%
  • GER vs AUT, Germany will win

    27 43.55%
  • GER vs AUT, Austria will win

    16 25.81%
  • HUN vs DEN, Hungary will win

    15 24.19%
  • HUN vs DEN, Denmark will win

    37 59.68%
  • HUN vs GER, Hungary will win

    8 12.90%
  • HUN vs GER, Germany will win

    44 70.97%
  • DEN vs AUT, Denmark will win

    34 54.84%
  • DEN vs AUT, Austria will win

    17 27.42%
  • Pick 1: AUSTRIA will AVOID Relegation

    16 25.81%
  • Pick 1: DENMARK will AVOID Relegation

    35 56.45%
  • Pick 1: HUNGARY will AVOID Relegation

    12 19.35%
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Thread: RELEGATION ROUND 2009 (Austria, Denmark, Germany, Hungary) NOTE: Germany can't fall

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungarianfan View Post
    Against Belarus we were equal .They also confirmed it after match.
    as far as the refereeing of this particular game is concerned, there's no reason to blame anybody, it was just fine.
    btw, HUN and BLR are almost equal in terms of the total number of 2M penalties. but there's one major difference - just look at the team stats reflecting PK %. in case of HUN it just sucks (no offence). imo, HUN's inability to master this crucial element of hockey eventually lead them to a fail. so, please don't blame the refs.
    Last edited by Dimash; 04-05-2009 at 16:24.
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    Great for the Danish Hockey Federation, the guys made it by the skin of there teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungarianfan View Post
    The shorter goal now is to get back to the elite as soon as possible. It won't be easy. Our biggest rival will be Slovenia, what's more on Slovenian soil probably, where they battled out the promotion 2 times already.
    There is strong possibility that Croatia is going to apply to host the tournament. Since Slovenia was division 1 host in 2007 and Croatia in 2003, we should be given preference.

    It would have been nice to have a beer with all of you Hungarian and Slovenian fans in Dom sportova ice hall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drax View Post
    There is strong possibility that Croatia is going to apply to host the tournament. Since Slovenia was division 1 host in 2007 and Croatia in 2003, we should be given preference.

    It would have been nice to have a beer with all of you Hungarian and Slovenian fans in Dom sportova ice hall.
    Wow, would be great!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungarianfan View Post
    The shorter goal now is to get back to the elite as soon as possible. It won't be easy. Our biggest rival will be Slovenia, what's more on Slovenian soil probably, where they battled out the promotion 2 times already.

    I do believe, we deserved to be here, and proved, we can be a lifting team between the elite and div1 in the future.
    Hope your not indicating that Slovenia is being favoured by the IIHF?

    The splitted division system with two groups in division I and II was introduced in 2001. In division I, the host nations have been quite evenly distributed. If this principle is to be kept, all I can say is that Hungary will not be first in the line as a host:

    Hungary (2002, 2003, 2005)
    France (2001, 2006)
    Nederlands (2002, 2005)
    Slovenia (2001, 2007)
    Austria (2008)
    China (2007)
    Croatia (2003)
    Estonia (2006)
    Japan (2008)
    Norway (2004)
    Poland (2004)
    Last edited by Karsten; 04-05-2009 at 22:32.

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    Last goal from game Germany - Hungary and Denmark - Austria:


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    Congratulations to Denmark for staying up. It was great having you Hungary, come back again next time stronger. Austria come back again too.

    On a serious note, someone said France should be where Austria is. France has stayed up in elite, since being promoted in 2007. With two straight showings and a good performance this year, they belong where they are. I don't hear anyone talk about France on these boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kun View Post
    Congratulations to Denmark for staying up. It was great having you Hungary, come back again next time stronger. Austria come back again too.

    On a serious note, someone said France should be where Austria is. France has stayed up in elite, since being promoted in 2007. With two straight showings and a good performance this year, they belong where they are. I don't hear anyone talk about France on these boards.
    If at all, Germany should be where Austria is. But it seems that you are pondering most of all which team SHOULD be where....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKramer View Post
    If at all, Germany should be where Austria is. But it seems that you are pondering most of all which team SHOULD be where....
    I'm not pondering nothing. I leave pondering for pre-games. Results and Facts guide my opinion, I'm take a very pragmatic approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karsten View Post
    Hope your not indicating that Slovenia is being favoured by the IIHF?

    The splitted division system with two groups in division I and II was introduced in 2001. In division I, the host nations have been quite evenly distributed. If this principle is to be kept, all I can say is that Hungary is first in the line as a host:
    Come on dude, did I? I just mentioned, that on Slovenian soil, as they are our biggest rival, would be more harder to promote. Am I right or am I right?
    Actually we should apply for hosting, in last 4 years we didn't host any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kun View Post
    Congratulations to Denmark for staying up. It was great having you Hungary, come back again next time stronger. Austria come back again too.

    On a serious note, someone said France should be where Austria is. France has stayed up in elite, since being promoted in 2007. With two straight showings and a good performance this year, they belong where they are. I don't hear anyone talk about France on these boards.
    Well, about France's strength, they had luck to be in an easier group than Hungary or Austria. That's all. They are not better generally, than any other teams those were in relegation round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drax View Post
    There is strong possibility that Croatia is going to apply to host the tournament. Since Slovenia was division 1 host in 2007 and Croatia in 2003, we should be given preference.

    It would have been nice to have a beer with all of you Hungarian and Slovenian fans in Dom sportova ice hall.
    No matter, som ice cold Ozujsko would be really fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimash View Post
    as far as the refereeing of this particular game is concerned, there's no reason to blame anybody, it was just fine.
    btw, HUN and BLR are almost equal in terms of the total number of 2M penalties. but there's one major difference - just look at the team stats reflecting PK %. in case of HUN it just sucks (no offence). imo, HUN's inability to master this crucial element of hockey eventually lead them to a fail. so, please don't blame the refs.
    Glenn Hanlon, and all of the Belarus players who were interviewed, told that the match was very hard, and it could have gone on either way.
    Maybe they are all wrong, and you alone are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karsten View Post
    Not sure it would help much - just postpone the problem to another year.

    The problem with Germany this year is not only that they can't be relegated. It is also that Germany will finish 12th or 13th in the world ranking regardless of the outcome of the rest of the games in the tournament (QR, playoffs and relegation all included). This means that Germany already know (or should know) that they will play in Group D next year - and that's always one of the toughest groups.

    the easist groups seen from the perspective of the non-elite nations are Group A and B because they includes up to three non-elite nations. There's something wrong with automatic seedning approach applied by IIHF. Should be scrapped in favour of the previous system that combines ranking (seedning) with lottery.
    The old system was not based on the world ranking, it was based on the final ranking of the last championship. This system was skipped because of the world championship 2003, where Denmark and Switzerland won against the USA and the USA was in the relegation round. In the drawing for the championsship 2004, the USA was only in basket 4 and they got a very strong group, even in the qualification round were 5 of the Top 7 nations. I think that was the reason why the IIHF skipped their system.

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    The German team was the biggest disappointment on this championship.

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