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    2010 IHWC 2010 IIHF World Championship in Germany - News/discussion


    2010 IIHF World Championship
    Cologne - Mannheim - Gelsenkirchen
    7-23 May 2010

    Official site: http://www.iihf.com/en/channels10/ii...wc10/home.html

    GROUP A
    RUS
    BLR
    SVK
    KAZ

    GROUP B
    CAN
    SUI
    LAT
    ITA

    GROUP C
    SWE
    CZE
    NOR
    FRA

    GROUP D
    Finland
    USA
    Germany
    Denmark
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    So who is Germany playing the opening game at Schalke 04's stadium against?

    I am guessing it is Finland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElQuapo View Post
    So who is Germany playing the opening game at Schalke 04's stadium against?

    I am guessing it is Finland?
    Yes, if IIHF follow the book it will be Germany vs Finland (3rd and 1st seed in the group)

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    Pretty hard group for germany and denmark. But the german team/staff is to blame, for having to play in group d next year. If they had been able to beat france, their group next year would be an other.

    Of course i am not saying that the other groups are easy for any non-elite team.
    But the situation for germany has really declined.

    It is not unlikely that germany will face the relegation round at the IHWC in their own country.

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    I'm going to post a truly early prediction, not having a clue as to rosters...

    But from looking at the groups and recent trends, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Slovakia might just be in a position to find themselves fighting in the Relegation Round again.
    Meanwhile I expect Italy to get slaughtered by three preliminary round opponents, and the other two groups could be really tough battles for the qualification round: Norway/France and Germany/Denmark could well go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElQuapo View Post
    So who is Germany playing the opening game at Schalke 04's stadium against?

    I am guessing it is Finland?
    It will be Germany-USA according to the IIHF wbsite.
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    Why is the start date for 2010 so late? With a start date of May 7, that is almost later than the end date than 2009 (May 10). Anyone have any explanation for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiser_matias View Post
    Why is the start date for 2010 so late? With a start date of May 7, that is almost later than the end date than 2009 (May 10). Anyone have any explanation for that?
    I guess it has something to do with the Olympic break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    I guess it has something to do with the Olympic break.
    Only in part. The IHWC usually starts in very late April/ early May:

    2010: 7 - 23 May

    2011: 30 April - 15 May

    2012: 4 May - 20 May

    http://www.iihf.com/fileadmin/user_u...ts_23.4.09.pdf

    This years IHWC was an exception to this general rule.

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    I completly forgot about the Olympics being next year. That would indeed seem to play a part in a delay.

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    Hopefully germany has a better one next year. This year's was horrible.
    The teams that win are the ones who have the biggest hearts

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    Quote Originally Posted by evenstrengthscout View Post
    Hopefully germany has a better one next year. This year's was horrible.
    Well, at least it can not get any worse, than this year.
    Ok, next year germany would be relegated if they finish in the same postion at the end of the tournament. But i think they should be able to do better and make it to the qualification round. Or at least are able to stay up in the A-Pool.

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    Was the game schedule already published?
    Who and where will play?
    I want to visit the biggest ice rink in the Europe in Cologne.

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    The game schedule is not yet published. Groups A and D will play in Cologne (except for the opening game in Gelsenkrichen), groups B and C in Mannheim.

    For information on ticketing see here:

    http://www.iihf.com/fileadmin/user_u...etinfo_eng.pdf
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    Will relegation round be played in both Cologne and Mannheim? Three matches each place. I would like to see Denmark, and have chosen a ticket pack with qualification round (group E) and relegation round (group G).

    Will this involve Denmark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larsen View Post
    Will relegation round be played in both Cologne and Mannheim? Three matches each place. I would like to see Denmark, and have chosen a ticket pack with qualification round (group E) and relegation round (group G).

    Will this involve Denmark?
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    i really hope i am in germany for this! hopefully it will serve as a very good promotional tool to bring new fans into the DEL and oberliga, generate more interest in hockey in germany :)

    a packed SAP arena in mannheim was amazing for me, i cant imagine what the atmosphere will be like for the opening game vs USA with 75000 people!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman66 View Post
    a packed SAP arena in mannheim was amazing for me, i cant imagine what the atmosphere will be like for the opening game vs USA with 75000 people!!!
    Don't expect too much. I don't think that most of the tickets were bought by hockey fans. There are not so many in Germany. Just to give you a figure, adding up the average attendance of all DEL teams gives about 94,000 fans and most of them go only to home games.

    I guess that most tickets were sold to people of that region, many to the fans of Schalke 04, the local football (or soccer if you like that term more) team. It is a good thing that this game attracted their attention. However hardcore hockey fans will be the minority. I bet for many spectators it will be the first live hockey game at all. So the promotion part of your statement may work, and I hope for a good anmosphere, but I don't bet on it ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tux96 View Post
    Don't expect too much. I don't think that most of the tickets were bought by hockey fans. There are not so many in Germany. Just to give you a figure, adding up the average attendance of all DEL teams gives about 94,000 fans and most of them go only to home games.

    I guess that most tickets were sold to people of that region, many to the fans of Schalke 04, the local football (or soccer if you like that term more) team. It is a good thing that this game attracted their attention. However hardcore hockey fans will be the minority. I bet for many spectators it will be the first live hockey game at all. So the promotion part of your statement may work, and I hope for a good anmosphere, but I don't bet on it ;-)

    I think that if you are willing to pay the money for a ticket and you are from the region and watching an international game between USA and GERMANY then there is a high chance that you will get swept up in the emotion of the occasion and hopefully being football fans they know how to cheer, chant etc.

    you may be right, but i hope for germany's sake it works out to promote hockey :)

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    I hopefully will be in Cologne when the game denmark vs. germany takes place.

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    Since few days are available single tickets for the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley View Post
    Since few days are available single tickets for the championship.
    I have some final round tickets ( 6 games, all in Cologne, very good position ) to spare. Please PM me for info.

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    New coach for Switzerland. Ralph Krüger will resign from his position after the Olympics and Sean Simpson (who was already signed for next season) will already be coach in Germany.

    So Krüger could be free for a job with another country. He surely showed in the last 13 years that he's a good coach for a federation.

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    GROUP A will be as follow:
    1.RUS
    2.BLR
    3.KAZ
    4.SVK- goes to relegation round

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    Super early predictions. I'll probably revise these as rosters become more solid.

    A
    RUS
    BLR
    SVK
    KAZ

    B
    CAN
    SUI
    LAT
    ITA

    C
    CZE
    SWE
    NOR
    FRA

    D
    USA
    DEU
    FIN
    DNK

    I think you'll see Germany reach inside themselves and play their hearts out in front of their own fans.

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    We go to see the game Russia - Slovakia. I'm looking forward for the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbragimKZ View Post
    GROUP A will be as follow:
    1.RUS
    2.BLR
    3.KAZ
    4.SVK- goes to relegation round
    What?!

    No way Slovakia gets lower then Belarus AND Kazakhstan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLAJA View Post
    What?!

    No way Slovakia gets lower then Belarus AND Kazakhstan!
    Why not? It wouldn't be the first time they've been in the relegation round... For Slovakia, there just doesn't seem to be the depth of talent if their top players can't make it. It'll all depend on who's playing, I think.

    I, however, also doubt that Kazakhstan will finish ahead of Slovakia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    Why not? It wouldn't be the first time they've been in the relegation round... For Slovakia, there just doesn't seem to be the depth of talent if their top players can't make it. It'll all depend on who's playing, I think.

    I, however, also doubt that Kazakhstan will finish ahead of Slovakia.
    Yes, it would be the 2nd time, I believe, however back in 08, it was Germany who sent us there, with all respect t Kazakhstan a team that was stronger than KAZ is at that point of time.

    Well, technically, we can´t get relegated because of 2011, so I wouldn´t be surprised if we end up in the relegation rounds. When people were complaining about the Olympics roster and the age of the players, the coach Filc claimed that "There ain´t no room for experiments at the Olympics". I say that before the home WHC 2011 we don´t have any better possibility for experiments than this when you cobimne the level of play at the WHC and the fact that we can´t get relegated. So we better use Germany 2010 for the generation change that should have already been done 3 or 4 years ago. Maybe the younger players aren´t as great as those before them were, there still are some good players who just haven´t been getting legit chances because of playing the same players all over again, I mean there´s gotta be something wrong when suddenly in the summer of 2008 we notice that we actually has players who won a medal at the U18 WHC back in 2003 and that we kinda forgot about them for a few years. So I say we should go all young, a lot of course also depends on the play-offs in NA, not just in the NHL, but also the AHL with guys like Tatar or Janus. However knowing Filc and his decisions in the last two season we´ll probably go to Germany with a team with loads of 30+ guys, with Lasak and Stana in net instead of at leats giving a fair opportunity to Konrad or Hudacek etc. Just like before Switzerland, besides Stefan Ruzicka, the two players that created the most offense in the preperation games were Tomas Tatar and Tomas Bulik, but because of age and the league they were/are playing in, Filc chose such tragasians as Pavlikovsky or Nagy, because they played in the KHL. Regarding, Bulik btw, i hope he makes it to the WHC this year, he´s been the best young forward in the league this year.

    We´re also gonna need players who can be stellar sometimes, but disappear half of the time, when it´s most important to step up, Stefan Ruzicka is a prime example of a player lik that. If he wasn´t, he´d probably be actually a top 6 forward in the NHL today. I´m afraid that Riso Panik is gonna end up the same way. When you only have a small number of top prospect, it does hurt a lot when the majority of them don´t develop because of laziness and similar reasons.

    Anyway, as for the group, I believe we will beat Kazakhstan and as for Belarus I´m not betting on them winning the SVK-BLR games either, especially before I know whether BLR will have at least one of the Kostytsin brothers and Grabovskij available. It ´s definitely going to be a close game,well at leats the score is gonna be close, like it´s always had been, even with our best players available in the past, but if our players actually try , I don´t see a reason why we couldn´t win the game.

    And btw, the person who ranked the group in the post that SLAJA quoted isn´t biased at all, right?
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    Yes I think you need a mix of youth with experiance, preferably more youth. 4-3 win over Norway yesterday makes me scared for Slovakia. I hope they do well on home ground next year, it would inspire many kids.

    (I am planning to come to 2011 in Slovakia, beautiful Bratislava! I have already started saving ;D. beer expensive? haha! and estonia will have euro by januaary 2011

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    Here is the official song for the 2010 IHWC in Germany:

    http://www.myvideo.de/watch/7349029/...tuck_On_Replay

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    scooter........



    the germans has a lot of good music. why they take scooter??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsc View Post
    the germans has a lot of good music. why they take scooter??????
    Maybe they want the team to be better than the official song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tux96 View Post
    Maybe they want the team to be better than the official song.
    The German team is definitely better. You only need the "Hans Zach spirit" back...

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    A Scooter song... disgraceful.

    I would have asked Megaherz to write something up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steigs View Post
    A Scooter song... disgraceful.

    I would have asked Megaherz to write something up.


    bad taste....

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    Why's it bad taste? I've checked the lyrics through a translator (though it could of course miss the meaning) but there doesn't seem to be anything wrong?

    Aside from the fact that the band has a good sound, if they were to write a song for the tournament I suspect it would fit the power and speed of the IHWC better than a Scooter track.

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    Agreed it would have been better than scooter tho even something by Rammstein would have been a really good choice
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    I could think of several bands, which would have been able to write a hockey song instead of this crap from Scooter!

    The first band I had in mind were "Die Toten Hosen". It is known, that they visited hockey matches regulary in Düsseldorf. They even played a show match against the Leningrad Cowboys. And they alredy made fantastic sports songs, e.g. "Auswärtsspiel" (road game):

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    Ok stimmt wäre sicher besser gewesen als scooter. Muss wohl anfügen das es einfach nicht mein persönlicher geschmack von musik ist... und ja ich dachte auch an die "Toten Hosen" oder so... es braucht einfach mehr kraft als der scooter-track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsc View Post
    Ok stimmt wäre sicher besser gewesen als scooter. Muss wohl anfügen das es einfach nicht mein persönlicher geschmack von musik ist... und ja ich dachte auch an die "Toten Hosen" oder so... es braucht einfach mehr kraft als der scooter-track.
    Ok true would have been better than scooter. Should probably add that there are just not my personal taste of music is ... and yes I also thought of the "Toten Hosen" or something ... it just needs more power than the scooter-track.

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    tux, you're right, for some reason Toten Hosen slipped my mind. Love their stuff. I own pretty much every album of theirs. I never realised the song title translated to "road game", it's one of my top-3 DTH songs
    I have pretty much every Megaherz album too, which is why I thought of them.

    The other band I might have considered would be Terrorgruppe, from their energetic pop-punk sounds, but I'm not sure they would agree to do a song for what is in part a nationalistic event.

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    The refrain is not bad, but the rest of the song is boring.

    So everything is planed. We stay in Mannheim from 07. May till 21. May. 13th of May we go to Koeln watching the game BLR - RUS.

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    Andy Murray is going to do the preparation of the Swiss team as long as Sean Simpson is in the playoffs with the ZSC Lions. During the wc itself Murray will be assistant of Simpson. Very nice selection of the Swiss federation.

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    I remember a press conference with Sean Simpson in Krefeld, when he was coach of the Munich Barons. Krefeld defeated Munich 8:1 on November 23rd 2001, after a 5:0 and 2:0 defeat in Krefeld in the previous season. Sean Simpson was asked about his comment on the match and he said (in german): "It was a good match for us in Krefeld. We scored a goal."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonas View Post
    Andy Murray is going to do the preparation of the Swiss team as long as Sean Simpson is in the playoffs with the ZSC Lions. During the wc itself Murray will be assistant of Simpson. Very nice selection of the Swiss federation.
    I suppose that means we´re gonna get Glen Hanlon.
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    iihf.com article http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/n...ash=219d5f5ce2
    "MUNICH – The 2010 IIHF World Championship Organizing Committee announced that the capacity for the opening game between USA and Germany has been increased to 76,152 because of the massive fan interest.
    The game is expected to break the current world record hockey attendance of 74,554 set in 2001 in an outdoor game between Michigan State University and the University of Michigan."

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