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    Israel 2010 IIHF World Championship Div.II group B- Estonia

    The Israeli national team took a 17-3 drubbing by the Estonian home team in the opening game.

    In their second game, against New Zealand, that was just completed, Israel lost a hard fought 5-4 match.

    They face powerhouses Roumania on Tuesday, and China on Wednesday, and are given little to no chance of beating or even tying one of those two teams.

    Friday will be the deciding match against Iceland, and since Iceland defeated New Zealand in their opening game by a 3-1 score, Israel will have to come up with a superhuman effort in order to avoid relegation to Division III next year, and even that may not be enough, as N.Z. now holds the advantage, if both have an equal won-lost record at the end of the tourney.

    Lygafe.

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    Lionel there is a specific thread for IHWC in Estonia, should be great if you would to share yuor opinion as ISR hockey expert there: http://forums.internationalhockey.ne...116#post173116

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    There was little doubt from the beginning of this series, that the Israeli team's chances for avoiding relegation were slim to none.
    Although they played with heart in a couple of their key games, having only three lines in difficult back to back games led to a complete collapse after about the mid way mark in, mainly their key game against New Zealand, where they lost a hard fought game by 5-4, after leading by 4-3 earlier.
    The same happened with China, where a 3rd quarter collapse gave China a 7-2 victory, when they scored 4 unanswered goals in the 3rd frame, again in the 2nd game of a back to back.
    In their final game against Iceland, they were beaten 6-2, after Isl. jumped into a quick 3-0 lead in the opening stanza, and although Isr. fought back to a 4-2 position after two, Isl. iced the game with two unanswered goals, although the win for Israel would have been meaningless anyway.
    The team is a hollow shell of what it was during the previous seasons, and without any of the key players showing up this year, the aging [ many of the formerly steady players are in their mid-thirties to Forty, e.g., and will likely retire after this season ] and shorthanded roster just couldn't compete, when it counted the most.
    As well, now that Evgeny Gussin is no longer between the pipes, the replacement goalies just aren't good enough to carry the team, as he did on many an occasion over the years.
    Div.III is where they belong at this stage, and it looks as though they'll be there not just next year, but for the forseeable future.

    Lygafe.

    Lionel Gaffen/ Fotomix.

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    Change is needed at the top of the Israeli federation.

    It is time for Sergei Matin and his top aides to be replaced, and for completely new leadership to be brought in.

    He's basically the Glen Sather of Israeli hockey, and that's not a good thing.

    Things will never improve until new leadership is brought in.

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    I hate to agree with Lionell, but Div 3 is there this team belongs. The way they skated in those clips was AWFUL, many lower level amateur teams in US could have taken them on with success. Only with Jenia out of the linup , do I realize how much we miss him. Unfortunately, the young generation is not yet up to pa. What happened to Amronin ? Sergei Frenkel was a surprising bright side, I watched Estonia game - the defence was AWFUL !! Some had trouble skating backwards or staying in position. Time to settle down and re build.

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    China's not a powerhouse. Our skeleton roster led China 2-1 halfway throught that game.....but playing with only three lines, as Israel always seems to do at the men's IIHF events, is a recipe for disaster. Even inferior teams can beat you when they have four lines and you only have three. Playing teams of roughly equal ability with only three lines? Hockey is way too tiring a game to only run three lines against teams that run four.

    For a start, 5 of our 15 skaters were U-18 players. They were completely outclassed by teams such as Estonia & Romania, and it showed on the scoreboard. However, Kai Malachi on defense was a bright spot - he was only around a -6 or -7 for the whole tournament, and he's a U-18 player.

    Sorotzki is a decent goaltender, but he's not even close to what Evgeny Gussin was. Amromin is 35 years old now and only plays in the very weak Israeli League; he hasn't faced good shooters since 2006 in France during Israel's one IIHF Division I appearance. He's not used to seeing tough shots anymore.

    Again, the biggest problem lies with the federation's leadership. Diaspora Jews pour money into the federation - where is it going?

    Why hasn't Matin improved the caliber of play in the Israeli League?

    Why hasn't he continually tried to promote the sport and the league in the mainstream Israeli media?

    Why hasn't he reached out to Israeli industry or various branches of government (armed forces, etc.) to sponsor or form teams?

    Why hasn't he invited semi-pro non-Israeli Jewish players to play in the league to improve the caliber of play, teach the Israeli players tactics and skills, & help expose the Israeli players to better competition?

    Why hasn't he at least accomplished getting the current teams regular coaching (most of them are run by the players nad have no coaches), regular practice time in Metulla or at least on the small rink in Maalot?

    Why isn't each team playing 20 - 25 game league schedules per season instead of 7 - 10 game schedules?

    Why does he seem content to let the national team and league degrade instead of improve?

    Why does he seem unable to work together with the wealthy Canadian Jewish community that wants nothing more than to help Israeli hockey with money, equipment, coaching & training, and dual-national players? It was that community that built the rink at Metulla, making ice hockey in Israel even possible. It was that community that got Israel into the IIHF. It was that community that has provided most of the equipment. It was that community that convinced Jean Perron - a Stanley Cup winning coach - to coach the national squad for several years. It is that community which has talented dual-national players to provide for the national team who don't want to play for Israel at this point in time due to Matin's insistence on controlling everything and not sharing power with the dual Israeli-Canadian contingent. The dual Israeli-Canadians are perfectly willing to work with the Russian-Israelis, but I have heard from multiple sources that Matin doesn't like to share power or utilize the money that comes in for the true betterment of Israeli hockey......and that is sad. A couple of the Israeli League teams - including Metulla, which is the base club for the U-18's, even lack proper team jerseys.

    This is why Israel is going to Division III, and why it may be an elevator Division II-Division III nation for some time to come.

    There is plenty of native Israeli talent on the Israeli U-18 team. There is still some talent on the men's team.

    But it's impossible for them to get better playing only 10 games per year.

    Why don't the men's or U-18 teams get any exhibition matches prior to each year's world championships like all of their competitors do? Exhibition games are valuable training and practice tools, and help guys develop chemistry playing together. Mistakes can be pointed out and corrected in time for the tournament games.

    Why doesn't the men's team get any practice time together, much less exhibition games, prior to tournament play?

    It's time for change at the top of the Israeli federation, and until that change comes, there will not be positive progress on the ice.

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    What about the Captain Sergei Belo not showing up for games because he went for a vacation instead?

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